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Old 12-28-2004, 04:45 PM
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Default Re: How do u tell an auto ecu from a manual ecu (pip9)

Here's what I know:
88-91 ECUs (PM6, PR4, PW0, PR3, PM7):
5spd = 000, 001, 002, A00, A01, A10, J00, J001, C01, C00
Auto = J51, J50, A50, A51, 901, A60, C50, C51, X30, A80

92-5 ECUs (P28, P30, P61, P72, P91, P08)
5spd = 000, 001, 002, 003, A00, A01, A02, C00, C01, C02, J00, J01, J02
Auto = J50, J51, 901, 902, C50, C51, C52, A50, A51, A52

96-00 ECUs (P2E, P2P, P2J, P72)
5spd = 000, 001, 002, 003, A00, A01, A03, C00, C01, C02, C03, J00, J01, J02, A11, C11
Auto = A70, A71, A72, A91, A92, C70, C71, C72, C91, C92

From the patterns we can learn the following:
-First letter = country of orgin
J = Japan
C= Canada
A=USA

-Second digit, if 5, 7, 9 then ecu is auto usually

-Third digit denotes the version/variation
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i wish i had my pic, but on just about every ECU if you take it out and carefully remove the cover from it there will be a little AT or MT imprinted on the circuit board. I believe it is fairly obvious
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thanks. mine says p28-a52 so it is an auto ecu... i guess i need to go get my money back and find a manual one. thanks.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BrokeAssPinoy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

92-5 ECUs (P28, P30, P61, P72, P91, P08)
5spd = 000, 001, 002, 003, A00, A01, A02, C00, C01, C02, J00, J01, J02
Auto = J50, J51, 901, 902, C50, C51, C52, A50, A51, A52

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im not arguin ANYTHING that you wrote, just wondering, isnt there p06 as well?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pip9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks. mine says p28-a52 so it is an auto ecu... i guess i need to go get my money back and find a manual one. thanks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

actually it can be converted to manual. It's easy I have done it several times:

http://www.zdyne.com/

click on 'tech' ... Read the section called "How can I tell if my OBD1 ECU is automatic or manual?"

it's just as matter of removing a resistor and moving another one..
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AT=Automatic Trans
MT=Manual Trans

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just adding some info with more ecu codes
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1082468

OBD1 ECU
P07 : 92-95 OBD1 Civic VX (D15Z1) 6 Wire O2
P05 : 92-95 OBD1 Civic CX (D15B)
P06 : 92-95 OBD1 Civic DX (D15B)
P28 : 92-95 OBD1 Civic Si/Ex (sohc vtec d16z6)
P30 : 92-95 OBD-1 Del Sol? DOHC Vtec Si/EG Si R?
P61 : 92-93 OBD-1 USDM GSR B17A DOHC vtec
PR3 : 92-93 OBD-1 JDM Integra RSi/XSi (B16A) ECU
PR4 : 92-93 OBD1 Integra RS/LS/GS (DOHC)
P72 : 94-95 OBD-1 Integra GSR (1.8L B18C? DOHC Vtec)
P74 : 92-95 OBD-1 Integra LS/GS (1.8L B18B)
P75 : 92-95 OBD-1 Integra LS/GS (1.8L B18B)
P08 : 92-95 OBD1 Civic/CRX VTi/VXi (sohc vtec)
P27 : 92-95 OBD1 Euro/Asian Civic (non-vtec 1.6l)
P29 : 92-95 OBD-1 JDM Domani (sohc zc)
P54 : 92-95 OBD-1 JDM Domani/1.8l Accord (1.8L B18B DOHC)
P70 : 92-95 OBD-1 Domani (sohc vtec zc - no oil pressure sensor reading)
P71 : 92-95 OBD-1 Integra (sohc vtec d16a)
P76: 94-95 OBD-1 JDM Integra (sohc zc)
P84 : 92-95 OBD-1 JDM Civic ETi (VTEC-E auto)
P91 : 92-95 OBD-1 JDM Civic Coupe (sohc vtec 1.6)
P0 A : 94-95 OBD-1 Accord EX
P0 C : 92-95 OBD-1 Accord 2.2L (??? F22B DOHC non-vtec)
P39 : 92-95 OBD-1 JDM Accord SOHC VTEC (F22A)
P11 : 92-95 OBD-1 Prelude 2.0i BB3 with F20A4 non-vtec
P13 : 93-95 OBD-1 Prelude Vtec (H22A DOHC Vtec)
P14 : 93-95 OBD-1 Prelude Si (non Vtec - H23A)
PT6? : some sort of non-VTEC OBDI Accord or Prelude, F22 I am guessing

OBD2 ECU
P72 : 96-00 OBD-2 Integra GSR
P73 : 96-00 OBD-2 Integra Type-R (JDM & USDM)
P75 : 96-00 OBD-2 Integra LS/GS
P2 E : 96+ Civic LX (Auto?)
P2 N : 96+ OBD-2 Civic HX Coupe
P2 P : 96+ OBD-2 Civic EX Coupe
P2 T : 99+ OBD-2 Civic Si Coupe
P5 P : 97-00 OBD-2 Prelude Type-S (JDM)
P28-G03 : ODB II 96+ European del Sol (SOHC VTec) (Looks like P73)

Engine info

Code Displacement Power Torque Compression Bore Stroke Cam Design VTEC?OBD Production

A20A3 1955 122 9.3:1 0 0 sohc no 0 1988-1989 Accord
B16A 1595 168@7800 116@7300 10.4:1 81 77.4 dohc yes 2 1996-2000 Civic VTi
B16A 1595 158@7600 112@7000 10.2:1 81 77.4 dohc yes 0 1990-1993 Integra XSi/RSi (JDM)
B16A SiR 1595 158@7600 111@7000 10.4:1 81 77.4 dohc yes 0 1991 CRX SiR (JDM- rare 10.4:1
B16A SiR 1595 160@7600 111@7000 10.4:1 81 77.4 dohc yes 0 1990-1991 Civic SiR (JDM)
B16A SiR II 1595 170@7600 116@7000 10.4:1 81 77.4 dohc yes 1 1992-1995 Civic SiR II (JDM) /del S
B16A2 1595 160@7600 111@7000 10.2:1 81 77.4 dohc yes 2 1999-2000 Civic Si
B16A3 1595 160@7600 111@7000 10.4:1 81 77.4 dohc yes 1 1994-1995 Del Sol
B16B 1595 185@8200 118@7500 10.8:1 81 77.4 dohc yes 2 1997-2001 Civic Type R (JDM)
B17A1 1678 160@7600 117@7000 9.7:1 81 81.4 dohc yes 1 1992-1993 Integra GSR
B18A1 1834 130@6000 121@5000 9.2:1 81 89 dohc no 0 or 1 1990-1991 Integra GS/RS/LS
B18A1 1834 140@6300 121@5200 9.2:1 81 89 dohc no 1 1992-1993 Integra GS/RS/LS
B18B1 1834 142@6300 127@5200 9.2:1 81 89 dohc no 1 1994-1995 Integra GS/LS/RS/SE
B18B1 1834 142@6300 127@5200 9.2:1 81 89 dohc no 2 1996-2000 Integra GS/LS/RS/SE
B18C SiR-G 1797 178@7600 129@6200 10.6:1 81 87.2 dohc yes 1 or 2 1995-1997 Integra SiR-G (JDM)
B18C Spec R 1797 195@7800 130@7600 10.6:1 81 87.2 dohc yes 2 1997-2001 Integra Type R
B18C1 1797 170@7600 128@6200 10.0:1 81 87.2 dohc yes 1 or 2 1994-2001 Integra GSR
B18C3 1797 200 ps@8000 rpm 15.5 kg-m@7500 rpm 10.8:1 81 87.2 dohc yes 1 or 2 1996 Integra Type R (JDM)
B18C5 1797 195@8000 130@7500 10.2:1 81 87.2 dohc yes 2 1998-2001 Integra Type R
B20A3 1958 104@5800 111@4000 9.1:1 81 95 dohc no 0 1990-1991 Prelude 2.0 S
B20A5 1958 135@5800 111@4000 9.0:1 81 95 dohc no 0 1990-1991 Prelude 2.0 Si
B20B 1973 126@5400 133@4300 8.8:1 84 89 dohc no 2 1997-1998 CRV
B20Z 1973 146@6400 133@4500 9.6:1 84 89 dohc no 2 1998-2001 CRV
B21A1 2056 140@5800 135@5000 9.4:1 83 95 dohc no 0 1990-1991 Prelude Si
C30A 2977 265@6800 217@5400 10.2:1 90 78 dohc yes 2 2002+ NSX
C32B 3179 280@7300 224@5400 10.2:1 93 78 dohc yes 2 2002+ NSX
D15A2 1488 58 0 0 sohc no 0 1984-1987 CRX HF (Carbed)
D15B 1493 130@6800 14.1kg/m@5200 9.6:1 75 84.5 sohc yes 1991-1999 Civic VTi (EG4)
D15B2 1493 92@6000 89@4500 9.2:1 75 84.5 sohc no 0 1988-1991 Civic DX/LX, CRX DX
D15B6 1493 62@4500 83@3000 9.1:1 75 84.5 sohc no 0 1988-1989 Civic HF / CRX HF
D15B7 1493 102@5900 98@5000 9.2:1 75 84.5 sohc no 1 1992-1995 Civic DX/LX
D15B8 1493 70@4500 83@3000 9.1:1 75 84.5 sohc no 1 1992-1995 Civic CX
D15Z1 1493 92@5500 97@4500 9.3:1 75 84.5 sohc yes 1 1992-1995 Civic VX
D16A1 1590 113 @ 6250 99 @ 5500 9.3:1 75 90 dohc no 0 1986-1987 Integra
D16A3 1590 118 @ 6500 103 @ 5500 9.5:1 75 90 dohc no 0 1988-1989 Integra
D16A6 1590 108@6000 100@5000 9.1:1 75 90 sohc no 0 1988-1991 Civic Si/ CRX Si
D16A8/9 1595 137@6800 108@5700 9.5:1 75 90 dohc no 0 1988-1989 Integra
D16Y5 1590 115@6200 104@5400 9.4:1 75 90 sohc yes 2 1996-2000 Civic HX
D16Y7 1593 106@6200 103@4600 9.4:1 75 90 sohc no 2 1996-2000 Civic DX/LX/CX
D16Y8 1590 127@6600 107@5500 9.6:1 0 0 sohc yes 2 1996-2000 Civic EX
D16Z6 1590 125@6600 106@5200 9.2:1 75 90 sohc yes 1 1992-1995 Civic EX/Si/Del Sol Si
D17A1 1668 115@6100 110@4500 9.5:1 75 94.4 sohc no 2 2001+ Civic DX/LX
D17A2 1668 127@6300 114@4400 9.9:1 75 94.4 sohc yes 2 2001+ Civic EX
EW4 1488 91@5500 93@4500 8.7:1 0 0 sohc no 0 1985-1987 CRX Si
F20A 1997 150@6100 137@5000 9.5:1 0 0 dohc no 0 1990-1993 Accord 2.0Si (JDM)
F20C 1997 240@8300 153@7500 11.1:1 87 84 dohc yes 2 2000+ S2000
F22A1 2156 125@5200 137@4000 8.8:1 85 95 sohc no 0 1990-1993 Accord
F22A1 2156 135@5200 142@4500 8.8:1 85 95 dohc no 1 or 2 1992-1996 Prelude S
F22A4 2156 130@5200 142@4000 8.8:1 85 95 sohc no 0 1990-1991 Accord
F22A6 2156 140@5600 142@5400 8.8:1 85 95 sohc no 0 1991-1993 Accord
F22B 2156 160@6000 148@5000 9.2:1 85 95 dohc no 1 or 2 1992-1996 Prelude Si
F22B1 2156 145@5500 147@4500 8.8:1 85 95 sohc yes 1 or 2 1994-1997 Accord EX
F22B2 2156 130@5300 139@4200 8.8:1 85 95 sohc no 1 or 2 1994-1997 Accord DX/LX
H22A 2157 220@7200 163@6500 11:1 87 90.7 dohc yes 2 1997-2001 Prelude SiR (JDM)
H22A 2157 200@7000 156@5250 10.0:1 0 0 dohc yes 2 1999-2001 Prelude
H22A 2157 190@6800 152@5500 10.6:1 0 0 dohc yes 1 or 2 1994-1997 Accord SiR
H22A 2157 220@7200 163@6500 11:1 87 90.7 dohc yes 2 1997-2001 Prelude Type S (JDM)
H22A 2157 200@6800 161@5500 10.6:1 0 0 dohc yes 1 or 2 1992-1996 Prelude VTEC
H22A1 2157 195@7000 156@5250 10.0:1 87 90.7 dohc yes 2 1997-1998 Prelude
H22A1 2156 190@6800 158@5500 10:1 87 90.7 dohc yes 1 or 2 1994-1996 Prelude VTEC
H23 2259 160@5800 156@4500 9.8:1 87 95 dohc no 1 1993-1995 Prelude Type S (JDM)
H23A1 2258 160@5800 156@4500 9.8:1 87 95 dohc no 1 or 2 1992-1996 Prelude SE/Si
K20A 1998 220@8000 206@7000 11.5:1 86 86 dohc yes 2 2001+ Integra (JDM)
K20A 1998 220@8000 206@7000 11.5:1 86 86 dohc yes 2 2001+ Civic Type R (JDM)
K20A 1998 220@8000 206@7000 11.5:1 86 86 dohc yes 2 2001+ Type R (JDM)
K20A 1998 160@6500 140@4000 9.8:1 86 86 dohc yes 2 2001+ Integra IS (JDM)
K20A2 1998 200@7000 142@6000 11:1 86 86 dohc yes 2 2001+ RSX Type S
K20A3 1998 160@6500 132@5000 9.5:1 86 86 dohc yes 2 2001+ RSX (base)
K24 2354 160@6000 162@3600 9.6:1 87 99 dohc yes 2 2002+ CRV
ZC 1590 137@6800 108@5700 9.5:1 75 90 dohc no 0 1990-1993 CRX (JDM)
ZC 1595 129@6800 106@5700 9.6:1 75 90 dohc no 0 or 1 1989-1992 CRX Si16/1.6i (JDM)
ZC 0 129@6800 106@5700 9.6:1 1595 0 dohc no 0 1985-1987 CRX Si (JDM)
ZC 1590 119@6300 105@5500 9:1 75 90 dohc no 0 or 1 1990-1993 Integra (JDM)
ZC 1590 129@6800 106@5700 9.6:1 75 90 dohc no 0 1986-1989 Integra (JDM)
ZC 1590 129@6800 106@5700 9.6:1 0 0 dohc no 0 1986-1987 Civic Si (JDM)
ZC 1590 129@6800 106@5700 9.6:1 75 90 dohc no 0 1988-1991 Civic Si (JDM)

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ce &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

actually it can be converted to manual. It's easy I have done it several times:

http://www.zdyne.com/

click on 'tech' ... Read the section called "How can I tell if my OBD1 ECU is automatic or manual?"

it's just as matter of removing a resistor and moving another one..</TD></TR></TABLE>

sweet, i'll check that out. seeing as how i only paid $30 for this ecu i might as well try it...
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i need help with harness. swap a dohc zc in a Dx 89 hacht.
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thanks for the info!!
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good info cant wait to find out tomorrow... thanks
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is it for sale i need one i give you 60$ double of what you payed lmk.
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nice nice....good info there
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pip9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

sweet, i'll check that out. seeing as how i only paid $30 for this ecu i might as well try it...</TD></TR></TABLE>

i did mines just today.

it was my first time soldering too. i think i did a pretty good job.



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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BrokeAssPinoy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here's what I know:
88-91 ECUs (PM6, PR4, PW0, PR3, PM7):
5spd = 000, 001, 002, A00, A01, A10, J00, J001, C01, C00
Auto = J51, J50, A50, A51, 901, A60, C50, C51, X30, A80

92-5 ECUs (P28, P30, P61, P72, P91, P08)
5spd = 000, 001, 002, 003, A00, A01, A02, C00, C01, C02, J00, J01, J02
Auto = J50, J51, 901, 902, C50, C51, C52, A50, A51, A52

96-00 ECUs (P2E, P2P, P2J, P72)
5spd = 000, 001, 002, 003, A00, A01, A03, C00, C01, C02, C03, J00, J01, J02, A11, C11
Auto = A70, A71, A72, A91, A92, C70, C71, C72, C91, C92

From the patterns we can learn the following:
-First letter = country of orgin
J = Japan
C= Canada
A=USA

-Second digit, if 5, 7, 9 then ecu is auto usually

-Third digit denotes the version/variation
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very useful thread bump!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tdo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i did mines just today.

it was my first time soldering too. i think i did a pretty good job.



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where is the solder? it looks like you pulled the solder out of the holes and pushed in the jumper.
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can you swap obd2 auto ecu to manual ecu?
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I'm gunna bump this because this was a huge help
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SO just to make sure this p08 ecu that has this code 37820-P08-900 is auto or manual? Dont want to buy it and it ends up being auto... &gt;&lt;
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wich resister is the one that i have to move and tha one the i have to remove
p28 auto to manual thabks
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