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Old 03-28-2004, 05:28 PM
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having a problem with my car not having enough top end speed. kinda stupid for me to care but i want to be faster on the 1/4. my problem is this, i am fast and pull on most cars off teh line until about the last bit of the qaurter mile. recently i raced on the track a similar civic with a bit of built up c1 and i had him off the line and for 90% of the race until the last 300ft when he passed me and won, then jsut this weekend i raced an rsx type s with a 55shot of nitrous and i pull on him for most of the race, at 1 point i think i was likely a good 2,3 car lengths up but again the end he started to catch up. i ended up winning by a 1 car lenght still but its really bother me to be giving up the much at the end. my set up is this 93 si (heavy bitch),b18c1, intake/exhaust, test pipe to remove cat.
my ideas are open the exhaust up a bit with a header, and i was also thinking my snail intake mani sucks (which i know it does) but will a new mani help that much on the top end? any help would be great.
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more cylinders
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1hotcivicSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">more cylinders </TD></TR></TABLE>

so true sometimes
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by indeclinE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Turbo </TD></TR></TABLE>

Turbo=more bottom end, mid range torque.

Anyways, the IM will help you. Im sure you know Skunk2 offers a GSR single butterfly, like the type r. Basically, have you looked into a ecu tuning? It could help you out considerably. Before, I really give you any ideas for more high end let me ask you this. What are your plans for this motor? I realize you want top end, which you have lots of options, but is that all your looking for?
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run a skunk manafold and get some cams wat ur 1/4 mile time
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get a header
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skunk2 IM and CTR intake cam
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manifold header, and keep some nitrous as a back up
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TODAeg6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Turbo=more bottom end, mid range torque.

Anyways, the IM will help you. Im sure you know Skunk2 offers a GSR single butterfly, like the type r. Basically, have you looked into a ecu tuning? It could help you out considerably. Before, I really give you any ideas for more high end let me ask you this. What are your plans for this motor? I realize you want top end, which you have lots of options, but is that all your looking for?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not if you put a big *** turbo on there...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TODAeg6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Turbo=more bottom end, mid range torque.

Anyways, the IM will help you. Im sure you know Skunk2 offers a GSR single butterfly, like the type r. Basically, have you looked into a ecu tuning? It could help you out considerably. Before, I really give you any ideas for more high end let me ask you this. What are your plans for this motor? I realize you want top end, which you have lots of options, but is that all your looking for?</TD></TR></TABLE>

i knew about the singel butterfly man. honestly i havent decided on the final outcome of this motor. right now i am gathering parts to build a strong top end including cams. but as for pistons and such, i havent decided on weather i stay NA or go turbo, its a daily driver so NA is liekly the way it will go. as for ecu tuning right now i am running the shitty skunk2 generic chipped p72. that will be changed soon i hope with a hondata s200 when i have finished the big build on the motor. top end is nice but really i want a car that is strong throughout the band, sometimes easier said then done but we will see.
any advise is much apreciated
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weight reduction maybe? might help
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RaYnE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">weight reduction maybe? might help</TD></TR></TABLE>

weight reduction is a defanite on my agenda already
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what tranny do you have? the stock gsr? if so maybe some shorter gears or a b16 tranny will make the power better used. other than that defenitely a header with 4 to 1 design to help the top end power.
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really need to know your mods so we can help!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">really need to know your mods so we can help!</TD></TR></TABLE>
read the first paragraph i wrote.

mods for now are: b18c1 with gsr tranny
intake,exhaust, test pipe, skunk2 chipped p72


i was thinking that maybe the gearing is the problem, car seems to pull hard until 4thgear then it almost falls on its face.
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