How is this a con?
03-09-2006, 01:40 PM
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How is this a con?
Pros
Good torque for a 1.8L (127 ft/lbs)
Inexpensive (even cheaper than a B16)
142 hp (more than any stock D series)
Boost heads love them
Cons
No VTEC
Longest B series transmission
how is a long transmission a con?
Good torque for a 1.8L (127 ft/lbs)
Inexpensive (even cheaper than a B16)
142 hp (more than any stock D series)
Boost heads love them
Cons
No VTEC
Longest B series transmission
how is a long transmission a con?
03-09-2006, 01:58 PM
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Re: (wspcivic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wspcivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">from a stop or roll?
stopped i can see that happening, but when im on the freeway 3rd gear hits pretty nice.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ride a B series transmission for a VTEC engine... you'll think your non-vtec B series tranny sucks donkey dong afterwards. Trust me on that.
stopped i can see that happening, but when im on the freeway 3rd gear hits pretty nice.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ride a B series transmission for a VTEC engine... you'll think your non-vtec B series tranny sucks donkey dong afterwards. Trust me on that.
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03-09-2006, 02:53 PM
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Re: (djsire)
I always thought the LS trannies were more popluar among boosted engines because of the longer gearing, to prevent wheelspin and aid in getting as much traction as possible. More specifically among turbo draggers, so they can launch and use all the power they have to pull them through the longer gears, netting them a lower ET and higher trap speed.
Edit: It also makes more sense for a boosted engine to use an LS tranny for a higher MPH during top end pills, since most boosted engines have the power to pull harder in the higher gears.
Edit: It also makes more sense for a boosted engine to use an LS tranny for a higher MPH during top end pills, since most boosted engines have the power to pull harder in the higher gears.
03-09-2006, 02:57 PM
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Re: (93allmotorcoupe)
nope im running a b16 tranny on my boosted b16. i love it. i would never think about getting the ls. i might get the gsr if i had to but never the ls
03-09-2006, 03:05 PM
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What kind of power are you making, and on how many pounds of boost? My response was just an assumption, after all I am an N/A freak and have never driven a honda on boost...however I would like to hear more responses, especially from turbo-users, to clear things up a little. 
03-09-2006, 03:16 PM
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Re: (djsire)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by djsire »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">h22 owns a k anyday</TD></TR></TABLE>
negative
negative
03-09-2006, 03:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PhatBoy5015 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">negative</TD></TR></TABLE> How so?
03-09-2006, 03:43 PM
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Re: (djsire)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by djsire »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">h22 owns a k anyday</TD></TR></TABLE>
haha funny
haha funny
03-09-2006, 04:13 PM
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im sick of these gearing threads, bauley or someone needs to make one a sticky. anybody with common knowledge knows the higher numerically the gear the better the accelaration. boosted or not.
03-09-2006, 04:44 PM
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Re: (BauleyCivic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BauleyCivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Longer gears = slower acceleration. Period.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Shorter gears = quicker acceleration. Period.
LOL, I don't know why people keep debating this.
Shorter gears = quicker acceleration. Period.
LOL, I don't know why people keep debating this.
03-09-2006, 05:20 PM
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Re: (PhatBoy5015)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PhatBoy5015 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
negative</TD></TR></TABLE>
HP per dollar a B or H will own a K series any day period
As far as which motor is better, more technlogicly advanced, or efficient? there is a reason they are using the K series now.
negative</TD></TR></TABLE>
HP per dollar a B or H will own a K series any day period
As far as which motor is better, more technlogicly advanced, or efficient? there is a reason they are using the K series now.
03-09-2006, 05:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Screwtape. »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Shorter gears = quicker acceleration. Period.
LOL, I don't know why people keep debating this. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm not debating the fact that a shorter gear means quicker acceleration. This is very obvious. My only question, or concern, is that a more powerful engine, i.e. a b-series on high boost putting down 400+ HP, is going to break traction in a shorter-geared tranny much quicker than say a 200HP N/A car. Obviously this all depends on tire choice, compound, size, and several other variables, but lets count them out for the time being. All im saying is that it only seems logical to think that a higher HP engine through the same set of gears will spin the tires quicker than a lesser-HP engine through that same set of gears. And if this is true, than wouldnt it make sense to raise the gearing a little in an attempt to combat the traction problem?
Shorter gears = quicker acceleration. Period.
LOL, I don't know why people keep debating this. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm not debating the fact that a shorter gear means quicker acceleration. This is very obvious. My only question, or concern, is that a more powerful engine, i.e. a b-series on high boost putting down 400+ HP, is going to break traction in a shorter-geared tranny much quicker than say a 200HP N/A car. Obviously this all depends on tire choice, compound, size, and several other variables, but lets count them out for the time being. All im saying is that it only seems logical to think that a higher HP engine through the same set of gears will spin the tires quicker than a lesser-HP engine through that same set of gears. And if this is true, than wouldnt it make sense to raise the gearing a little in an attempt to combat the traction problem?
03-09-2006, 06:12 PM
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i havent dynoed my car but i believe it is the 280-300 range. once you drive i boosted honda you will never go back to n/a( unless your engine blows) i agree, shorter gears= faster acceleration. an ls tranny on a turbo car would seem boring to me. the only draw back is driving on the highway, becasue the gears are shorter. i drive like 70 and my rpms are at like 4500.
03-09-2006, 06:32 PM
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Re: (93allmotorcoupe)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93allmotorcoupe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm not debating the fact that a shorter gear means quicker acceleration. This is very obvious. My only question, or concern, is that a more powerful engine, i.e. a b-series on high boost putting down 400+ HP, is going to break traction in a shorter-geared tranny much quicker than say a 200HP N/A car. Obviously this all depends on tire choice, compound, size, and several other variables, but lets count them out for the time being. All im saying is that it only seems logical to think that a higher HP engine through the same set of gears will spin the tires quicker than a lesser-HP engine through that same set of gears. And if this is true, than wouldnt it make sense to raise the gearing a little in an attempt to combat the traction problem?</TD></TR></TABLE>
You still want the shorter gears. It may help with traction, but switching to a longer transmission will result in slower times as opposed to gettting a better tire that will hook. Only time someone should consider getting a longer transmission (on a drag car) is if you're topping the car out part way down the track.
You still want the shorter gears. It may help with traction, but switching to a longer transmission will result in slower times as opposed to gettting a better tire that will hook. Only time someone should consider getting a longer transmission (on a drag car) is if you're topping the car out part way down the track.
03-09-2006, 07:09 PM
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Re: (tallyturbo)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tallyturbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i havent dynoed my car but i believe it is the 280-300 range. once you drive i boosted honda you will never go back to n/a( unless your engine blows) i agree, shorter gears= faster acceleration. an ls tranny on a turbo car would seem boring to me. the only draw back is driving on the highway, becasue the gears are shorter. i drive like 70 and my rpms are at like 4500.</TD></TR></TABLE>not true I prefer to n/a over boost. I had two turbo hatches break 12's and whoop alot *** on the streets. Not that my opinion matters but n/a is easier and more fun. Especially when driving canyons.