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Old 03-20-2003, 12:15 AM
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Default How come my car isn't fast enough!?

Hi, i want to know how come my civic isn't fast enough

I have a 93 EG cx hatch with B16A swap and raced with my friend's S2000

But i lost quite badly. And this is a rolling start.

I won the first 2 gears, until when i got to 3rd, he suddenly pull away from me. I don't know why, but how come my car is so much slower!??

S2000 mods:
AEM CAI
Spoon throttle body
Spoon N1 cat back

My civic is a EG CX hatch
B16A swap
GSR tranny
Spoon flywheel
Centerforce clutch
Crower titian valve springs and retainer
Type R cams
11.2 compression ratio
type R head gasket
type R spark plug
NGK spark plug wires
CAI
UR crank pully
port and polish
blue print and balance
stright pipe
ITR b pipe
stock header and cx muffler

but even so, how come he pulled so much on me!? Is it because my GSR tranny gearing is too long?

We did this from rolling start. Like i said again, at first i pulled on him, then he pulled 2 cars on me immediately at 3rd.

Plz tell me what could be the possible problem.


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Old 03-20-2003, 12:18 AM
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Default Re: How come my car isn't fast enough!? (EG Hatch)

Didn't you know that the S2000's 3rd gear vtec is mad fast, yO??? Your torque-less wonder cannot handle the 3GV man...j/p I am not really sure bro but good luck finding out
Old 03-20-2003, 12:27 AM
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Default Re: How come my car isn't fast enough!? (GTlvr82)

u are right man. His 3rd gear was pretty ****** fast!!!!!!!

is like, i pulled on him first 2 gears thinking i m going to win

then my friend just flew by me after at 3rd and is like iwas sitting there damn it!!!!!

also i m using stock 14 inch rims which = shitty tires = shitty traction

whenever i go vtec in first i will spin the tires

a little in second. Just very little.
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Default Re: How come my car isn't fast enough!? (EG Hatch)

if his car all of a sudden go pretty loud..from when he launched and switch to 2nd.. and got louder in 3rd.. hes prolly squeezing on you..
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if his car all of a sudden go pretty loud..from when he launched and switch to 2nd.. and got louder in 3rd.. hes prolly squeezing on you..
Yup...sneak into his trunk and turn that ish off...then race him
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Default Re: How come my car isn't fast enough!? (romeo619romeo)

no man, he was in redline all the way every gear man!!

my friend was also in his car too.

He isn't squeezing on me.
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Default Re: How come my car isn't fast enough!? (GTlvr82)

your car probably worth 12,000 his about 30,000... he better win!
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Default Re: How come my car isn't fast enough!? (EG Hatch)

Possible that the taller gearing on the GSR tranny is hurting you.

Get a Type R tranny w/ LSD
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Default Re: How come my car isn't fast enough!? (civicscantdrift)

yeah thats what i was thinking

do u think if i put in the Type R or SIR tranny, DC JDM 4-1 header and type R muffler should help a bit? Cuz i have a type R muffler sitting aside but havn't install yet

that way, installing the 3 things, we should have a much closer race?
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Default Re: How come my car isn't fast enough!? (civicscantdrift)

Lets see.....B16A hp at crank is 160-170. F20 hp at crank is 240-250.

That S2K, if it were stock, and your motor with its mods, will still beat you.

Got a dyno chart?

I'm guessing 190-210 hp at your crank with your mods.
The S2K is probably sittin' at 255-260 hp.

You still think you should win?

The only thing you got on him is weight. Driver skills are a must too. I've beaten many DOHC's with my SOHC. My last victory was over a EH w/ a B18A. Both of us were stock....driver skills won.

I'm not trying to be mean or make an enemy, just my points of view.

I really want to see a dyno chart. With all your hard work (money into your car) I'd like to see the exact hp at your crank and the wheels.


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Default Re: How come my car isn't fast enough!? (D16Z6racing)

You have a decent setup. You are using the stock b16 header? With your setup I'm shocked you're using the stock CX muffler.. Ditch that muffler too. That thing can't shoot a pea through it.. Are you surprised you lost to an S2k. I'm sure he probably has at least 10wph if not more from his mods. Don't be discouraged..
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Default Re: How come my car isn't fast enough!? (00MRSi)

s2000 is too kick for my car.....you need NOZ....two of the big ones....
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Default Re: How come my car isn't fast enough!? (civicvteckid)

hondas are slow...lol


b16=160 hp 111 tq
s2000= 240 hp 160 tq

still wonder why?
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Default Re: How come my car isn't fast enough!? (EG Hatch)

Get rid of the ITR cams, throw in some wilder cams, get rid of the stock CX muffler, run it open header, and tune it. Then it should be fun.
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Default Re: How come my car isn't fast enough!? (brryder)

s2000= 240 hp 160 tq
horrible torque numbers. Why can't get get a high revving 6 for the Civc? That would be awesome.
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Default Re: How come my car isn't fast enough!? (GTlvr82)

Didn't you know that the S2000's 3rd gear vtec is mad fast, yO??? Your torque-less wonder cannot handle the 3GV man...j/p I am not really sure bro but good luck finding out
baaaahaaaaa....LOL......ahhh i loving reading posts like this
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