acchaser

...i have 00 Civic VP with two drum brakes on the back, two disc brakes on the front. anyone has the workshop manual pages showing how to flush the brakes on such system? i've done it on 4 disc brakes but not on these with two drum brakes at the back.

Syndacate

If you're talking about bleeding the brakes, it's the same exact concept.

acchaser

... i see. this car has no ABS so anyone knows which wheel i should bleed the brake fluid first? what should be the sequence?

Luserkid

Rear Pass
Rear Driver
Front Pass
Front Driver

Car has to be on as well. Have fun.

kevmugen

hahahahahahahahaha!

Slamaccord

iTrader: (1)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Luserkid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Car has to be on as well. Have fun. </TD></TR></TABLE>

First time I heard that one.

93DelSolSiR

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ive never heard such thing... bleed it in any order with the car off!!

Miracle

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93DelSolSiR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ive never heard such thing... bleed it in any order with the car off!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

But if the car is off, won't you lose the assistance of power brakes?

Just leave the car turned on, it will be easier, and your leg won't get fatigued.

acchaser

...kool let me try it.


Modified by acchaser at 10:23 AM 10/6/2006

TriniTech

Bleed in the order mentioned above, furthest from the master cylinder first.. with the car off.

97civicdx

Get a vacuum assist power bleeder.

CardDealer

Modified by CardDealer at 4:42 AM 11/16/2006

Luserkid

Everyone has there way of bleeding but in the end as long as you get all the air out thats what matters. The car has to be on due to the brake booster. You cant get the brake pedal all the way down after 3 pumps with the car off because of that.

fourthgenhatchB17

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Luserkid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Everyone has there way of bleeding but in the end as long as you get all the air out thats what matters. The car has to be on due to the brake booster. You cant get the brake pedal all the way down after 3 pumps with the car off because of that. </TD></TR></TABLE>

True that, but it also depends on what bleeding method u use. I personally use a vacuum pump. I can do it by myself and the car can be off.

lv6l

this was taken off the oem honda manual service book. it is for your car. hope it helps.

chrisw85

i see no point in 'pumping then holding the pedal method'--think about it, the piston is still going to move the same disatance and therefore the same amount of fluid per stroke, so why pump the pedal three times, then hold and crack when you could have moved 4x as much fluid by cracking the bleeder per each pump?

excivicboy96

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you're talking about bleeding the brakes, it's the same exact concept.</TD></TR></TABLE>

bleeding and flushing are different. bleeding is getting rid of air bubbles in the line and flushing is getting rid of all the fluid and replacing it.

Spoon-EK9

why is the image on helm's manual wrong?

bleeding should be taken in order of the farest to the closest from brake MC/booster.

anyway, good luck

cueballsi

You want to flush your brakes? if u have no abs try this.....

u need 2 people, but 3 is even better.
a big bottle of fluid,
clear hose, container u don't car about,
and a 10mm wrench.

I was tought farthest to closest of the master.. and i am still alive.

1 person watching and adding fluid when it is low
1 person in the car fow pumping
1 person cracking open the bleeder screws

*NOTE* moke sure the master never goes dry NEVER!!!

Fill master, put 10mm on bleeder screw, hose on bleader screw ( MUST BE A TIGHT FIT) and the other end in the container, add enough fluid in the contianer to submerge the other tip of the hose. HOSE MUST BE SUBMERGED AT ALL TIMES!!!..... have the person hold down the brake, and u crack open the valve (only enough to allow fluid to come out). close it back up, have them pump again, hold down, crack open .... do this till the line is full of fluid. Once it is full of fluid, make sure the hose tip is submerged... leave the valve open and have the person pump, and pump, and pump, untill clean fluid is seen in the hose. If there are bubbles, U do not have a tight fit of hose around the bleader screw, ot u crack the bleader screw too far and air is seeping in throught the treads. Once there is clean fluid in the clear line, tighten the bleeder screw, *NOW* UNSUBMERGE the hose from the container (if u do not, the fluid will sifen itelf out of the container and onto the floor once u remove the other end from the bleeder screw) then remove the hose from the bleader screw.

Move on to the next caliper and repeat, making sure master is always full!!!


any questions pm me!

lv6l

the picture is taken from the honda oem service manual. if that is also known as helms, sorry. but yes i have been taught the farthest to closest but i had a time where no matter how many times i bleed my brakes, there's still some air in it, so i crack open the service manual and look at the pattern, follow that pattern and haven't had bubbles eversince. im not saying the farthest to cloeset method is incorrect but if you are having trouble still with brakes, wouldn't hurt to try what honda recommend.

and not all cars have the same pattern as the picture said, that model civic is different from others.

Eyal 951

the brake booster is to help you push the pedal when it has hydraulic pressure. WHen you bleed, you open the system, releasing all pressure, hence NO NEED for assist. The pedal will effortlessly go to the floor everytime as long as your opening the bleeder. You arent building pressure, your just moving fluid through the lines.