hafaadaiteg

really i hear good and bad reviews...i wanna go B-SERIES but no ones Being SERIouS...

i need an honest opinion on the B20 motor or just anything i can do..i wanna slap a gsr or b16 head on the b20 but most hybrids expletive up....

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Luserkid

Do it. If your looking for serious power that motors going to need some new sleeves. Stock its fine.

Libertariat

The problem with b20's is people try to rev them like b16's.

That pretty much sums it up.

hafaadaiteg

K if i slap a vtech head....then...what throttle body and other **** do i need im lookin for some serious power but my daily driver....

Boostedb20EH2

Whats wrong with the b20?

People in the honda scene dont really know how to deal well with torque so they opt for the more "efficent" b16

ke98248

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It's V-TEC.

Boostedb20EH2

If you want a serious answer. The sleeves are the only things holding you back, aside from pistons. I have a built block with a b16 head on 18 psi, and loving it. It's a powerhouse,no joke..just for some reason not one of the popular honda motors.

drewbie*

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You are not ready for a b20... I can tell you are inexperienced when it comes down to the details.

You don't just slap a vtec head on a non vtec motor unless you are working with single cam engines. Secondly, if you did go crvtec its not a rev friendly motor unless you take the proper precautions.

Search b20vtec crvtec lsvtec and it will give you an idea.


I am not knocking the b20 in any way. I have one I am going to build. A lightly modded b20 with a good tranny will make a nice combination.

Libertariat

Use the regular TB for the vtec head, you'll still use the same intake manifold.

civicslayrx

B-20's rock.


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Modified by civicslayrx at 8:33 AM 5/27/2007

92_VX_EG

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicslayrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B-20's rock. I have riden in a friends. The tourqe is awsome. 13.7 in the quarter in a del-sol. BBk mani, cold air intake, dc header, v-tec, clutch. Tuned on chrome. Just got done doing a t-4 setup on 8.8 pounds. Roughly 290 to the wheels during tuning. (I wasn't there for the tune session, so don't flame me, the highest dyno sheet i saw was roughly 270) The car is amazing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It didnt' run 13's all motor though did it??? Just ask Ghenna about the little red freak stock LS 92 hatch with the aem short ram, 6 puck, header and exhaust that's untuned.

civicslayrx

Yep, all motor. He needs to stop being a punk and get the car out to the track with the turbo setup.

92_VX_EG

I guess my car will run 13.50's then... LOL. It ran low 14's. The fastest of the LS and B20/vtecs N/A in Hagerstown is Zane's hatch. It ran 13.90's on street tires with a stock LS bottomend, B16 head with GSR cams, intake manifold, header, clutch and exhaust. It made 179whp.

civicslayrx

MY BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ghenna told me 13.70's. I just called to make sure that it was in fact 13.70, and he said "13.87" on drag radials was his BEST time so far n/a. I could have sworn he said 13.70's, oh well my bad.

92_VX_EG

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I'll have to ask him what it REALLY ran. Morris said he only beat him by a car and Morris ran a 14.40 and that's a little off from 13.87. But if he really did run 13.87 I should be looking forward to 13s with my little LS .

And for the guy that really wants a B20... they're not all they're cracked up to be in stock form Vtec'd. They're weak when you rev them like a Vtec motor and they don't really make any more power than a stock LS/Vtec. Use whatever's cheaper either an LS or a B20 block. If you build one the right way it might cost you a little money but I've seen some LS/Vtecs with OEM bottomends run 12's on pump gas. And then you won't have to worry about the rodbolts stretching, etc... the average 15,000-30,000 mile lifetime will increase. Search for D-Robs LS/Vtec thread in the all motor forum for more details... it'll probably make you want to do one even more.

GarageAlchemist

ug..

civicslayrx

whatever dude. Listen to me or not. All i know is what ghenna tells me. I was not at the drag strip, but everything i've said is true to the best of my knowledge.

_skitzo_

b20'S are dogs...the whole frankie swap being done, doesnt even justify the money spent on those motors
Go out get a b16 or gizzer, and have fun...
Just swap and play..

the stock cx

to answer your question. whats wrong with the b20? nothing. as for slapping a gsr or b16 head on that b20 fine go ahead. the best bang for buck would be a b20 vtec. but remember to know your limits on both the stock b20 bottom end and the stock b16 head. if your looking to go fast a short period of time then b20 vtec is your choice. it should last you around 6 months to about 2 years depending on how much your on the throttle and what you include in your build. remeber that even most built ls vtec or b20 vtec wont last as long a stock b16, gsr, or type r.

Libertariat

Honestly, if I was going to cheap out on a swap, i'd get a b18b.

it's tried and tested as a great motor n/a or turbo'd.

That ls/vtec crap is a load of balogna. If you're going to waste time with an ls/vtec going n/a OR turbo, just buy a gsr motor and save the hassle of building the ls.

EK9Tune

Honestly, for a minute I thought it was a pun.

"I wanna go B-Series but no ones Being serious"

I don't know it may just be me.

JdmFr0g

my friend had a b20 w/ b16b (ctr head) and CTR LSD Tranny ... 13:2:1 ported head 3 angle valve job... skunk 2 valvetrain skunk2 st. 2 .. duno if they were pro series.... but with the scavenger sys installed and tuned with hondata it made 235 hp and it coulda used more tunin wit a wideband... it was sic

Boostedb20EH2

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That ls/vtec crap is a load of balogna. If you're going to waste time with an ls/vtec going n/a OR turbo, just buy a gsr motor and save the hassle of building the ls.

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To tell you the truth,i'd put my crvtec against any gsr with the same turbo set up with confidence.

Libertariat

a stroked b18b (b20) is of course going to be better having .2 liters more displacement.

I was comparing 1.8L

Boostedb20EH2

True, I guess with my car already having a b20 boosted, crvtec was the best step. Now if i was building a motor for turbo, it would be the gsr. ANd i wouldnt waste my time with anything else.