HONDATA VS AEM....FUEL MANGEMENT
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I have had both. I had mad problems w/ my AEM, so I finally sold it and went hondata. The hondata has better drivability than my aem had, but it is all in the tuning. The AEM is a better standalone when compared to hondata, but hondata has been around for awhile and has got my vote for better overall drivability. My brother still uses the aem ems, and it is a great standalone, but I prefer the way my sol drives better w/ the hondata than it did w/ the aem.
Good luck though.
I voted for hondata.
Good luck though.
I voted for hondata.
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Re: (sohcvtec66)
if its for a street car-hondata
if its for a street class car or race car-depends on tuner
for a street car hondata is the smartest choice.
nothing is gonna start and run a honda like a honda ecu.
it all depends on the tuner though. Tune what theyknow and use.
do a search y0!
if its for a street class car or race car-depends on tuner
for a street car hondata is the smartest choice.
nothing is gonna start and run a honda like a honda ecu.
it all depends on the tuner though. Tune what theyknow and use.
do a search y0!
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i voted in favor of hondata as well,hondata is an easy setup to use,compared to the aem system,if you dont have any experience in haltech designs ecu's then the aem is not for you....
before you decide to buy either one of these stand-alone systems,make shur you can either
a. tune them both
b.know a good reliable shop and or friend who can.
reason be,i had a friend who bought the aem system,doesnt know the mechanic of an engine,got cocky,bought the aem setup,tried to tune it him self ,and booom,blew his piston rings and scorched the cylinders because he starved the engine wasnt geting any fuel for his turbo setup,because of the lack of unexperience........he had
before you decide to buy either one of these stand-alone systems,make shur you can either
a. tune them both
b.know a good reliable shop and or friend who can.
reason be,i had a friend who bought the aem system,doesnt know the mechanic of an engine,got cocky,bought the aem setup,tried to tune it him self ,and booom,blew his piston rings and scorched the cylinders because he starved the engine wasnt geting any fuel for his turbo setup,because of the lack of unexperience........he had
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AEM has how much money and R & D for their products and race cars...I am not against Hondata but where is their R & D and financial backing come from? I don't know.... I might just be ignorant.... Iwould trust AEM to be around a lot longer the hondata....but then again I don't know Hondata's history
AEM has how much money and R & D for their products and race cars...I am not against Hondata but where is their R & D and financial backing come from? I don't know.... I might just be ignorant.... Iwould trust AEM to be around a lot longer the hondata....but then again I don't know Hondata's history
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"AEM has how much money and R & D for their products and race cars...I am not against Hondata but where is their R & D and financial backing come from? I don't know.... I might just be ignorant..."
Yes.
You will want to alter the comparison to AEM vs Honda's R&D + Hondata's R&D as Hondata builds on what Honda have done and builds on Honda's ECU.
Hondata has been around for 4 years and is self financed. All we do are Hondas.
Yes.
You will want to alter the comparison to AEM vs Honda's R&D + Hondata's R&D as Hondata builds on what Honda have done and builds on Honda's ECU.
Hondata has been around for 4 years and is self financed. All we do are Hondas.
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It kinda of goes both ways, I like the AEM Much better for installing
AEM = Plug in and it's your ECU, Done and DOne
Hondata = Obd 2 to Obd 1 Conversion, and buying the right ECU p series, and setting up the hondata system, and people always talk about the price, the AEM has more options then a base model hondata, but u can add more stuff to the hondata, but then the price shots way up.
I like the AEM for Install ease, and ATP in fremont are very good at tuning the units, when i win the lotto, i will get one, Im trying to Sell my E Manage for a AEM EMS.
AEM = Plug in and it's your ECU, Done and DOne
Hondata = Obd 2 to Obd 1 Conversion, and buying the right ECU p series, and setting up the hondata system, and people always talk about the price, the AEM has more options then a base model hondata, but u can add more stuff to the hondata, but then the price shots way up.
I like the AEM for Install ease, and ATP in fremont are very good at tuning the units, when i win the lotto, i will get one, Im trying to Sell my E Manage for a AEM EMS.
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For me it is all about the price! Why spend more on something when you can get the same results(if not better0 out of something cheaper! If it gets more involved, then great! I like it like that! I wish hondata would simplify there whole realtime setup though! I have done the research on there setup, and for the realtime datalogging capability, you are looking at the price of a ems??
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Re: (simple4012)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by simple4012 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if its for a street car-hondata
if its for a street class car or race car-depends on tuner
for a street car hondata is the smartest choice.
nothing is gonna start and run a honda like a honda ecu.
my car better run like a street car yO
it all depends on the tuner though. Tune what theyknow and use.
do a search y0!
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if its for a street class car or race car-depends on tuner
for a street car hondata is the smartest choice.
nothing is gonna start and run a honda like a honda ecu.
my car better run like a street car yO
it all depends on the tuner though. Tune what theyknow and use.
do a search y0!
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Hondata is so user friendly and very easy to work with if you grasp the concept.
But with AEM....anything you can think of, it can do. I mean....you can probably measure the EGT's from each cylinder and tune each cylinder individually if you wanted to.
AEM has way more options....but how many people really need that? Not me...
I have Hondata and I love it
But with AEM....anything you can think of, it can do. I mean....you can probably measure the EGT's from each cylinder and tune each cylinder individually if you wanted to.
AEM has way more options....but how many people really need that? Not me...
I have Hondata and I love it
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Re: HONDATA VS AEM....FUEL MANGEMENT (af97civic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by af97civic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how much does that hondata run
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S200 with boost option and everything was 350 bucks for me
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S200 with boost option and everything was 350 bucks for me
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Re: HONDATA VS AEM....FUEL MANGEMENT (sohcvtec66)
aem is better you have way more options u can make it have really good drive ability you just have to know how to tune it
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This is from the Hondata website for boosted cars.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The approximate cost of installing a Hondata system (without tuning, labor and dyno time) is:
OBD0 vehicles - Hondata Stage 2 and injectors = $928
OBD1 vehicles - Hondata s200 and injectors = $928
OBDII vehicles - Hondata s200, OBDI ECU, adapter harness and injectors = $1428</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The approximate cost of installing a Hondata system (without tuning, labor and dyno time) is:
OBD0 vehicles - Hondata Stage 2 and injectors = $928
OBD1 vehicles - Hondata s200 and injectors = $928
OBDII vehicles - Hondata s200, OBDI ECU, adapter harness and injectors = $1428</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: HONDATA VS AEM....FUEL MANGEMENT (Marauder)
thats great....
why dony you post a price list of AEM AND injectors as well.
ignorance is bliss i guess
people who are building their entire cars with fully built turbo setups to complain about 100 bucks for a conversion harness baffle me. read hondatas website THROUGH. take the time and do so. i gaurantee you buy hondata. and if you buy it from adealer it comes ready tp plug in.
yea ok the aem plugs in and ya ready to go......it plugs in yes.....thats about all
why dony you post a price list of AEM AND injectors as well.
ignorance is bliss i guess
people who are building their entire cars with fully built turbo setups to complain about 100 bucks for a conversion harness baffle me. read hondatas website THROUGH. take the time and do so. i gaurantee you buy hondata. and if you buy it from adealer it comes ready tp plug in.
yea ok the aem plugs in and ya ready to go......it plugs in yes.....thats about all
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Re: HONDATA VS AEM....FUEL MANGEMENT (simple4012)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by simple4012 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats great....
why dony you post a price list of AEM AND injectors as well.
ignorance is bliss i guess
people who are building their entire cars with fully built turbo setups to complain about 100 bucks for a conversion harness baffle me. read hondatas website THROUGH. take the time and do so. i gaurantee you buy hondata. and if you buy it from adealer it comes ready tp plug in.
yea ok the aem plugs in and ya ready to go......it plugs in yes.....thats about all</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah....AEM is going to start you out at 2k at least!!.....let alone finding someone who knows what they're doing and have them tune for you.
AEM has more options....but those options arenm't needed for 99% of the cars on the road. and it's a lot harder to tune. I was helping c-speedracing.com tun in his Supra the other night with AEM....yeah
but Hondata is hands down the best way to go...
why dony you post a price list of AEM AND injectors as well.
ignorance is bliss i guess
people who are building their entire cars with fully built turbo setups to complain about 100 bucks for a conversion harness baffle me. read hondatas website THROUGH. take the time and do so. i gaurantee you buy hondata. and if you buy it from adealer it comes ready tp plug in.
yea ok the aem plugs in and ya ready to go......it plugs in yes.....thats about all</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah....AEM is going to start you out at 2k at least!!.....let alone finding someone who knows what they're doing and have them tune for you.
AEM has more options....but those options arenm't needed for 99% of the cars on the road. and it's a lot harder to tune. I was helping c-speedracing.com tun in his Supra the other night with AEM....yeah
but Hondata is hands down the best way to go...
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Re: HONDATA VS AEM....FUEL MANGEMENT (sohcvtec66)
I feel if you are going to choose between Hondata and AEM it really depends on what tuners are in your area and what they can tune. The hondata is fairly easy to tune and setup comapred to the aem. I have both. The Hondata S200 and AEM I ran them both at the dyno to see if I could get one to produce more power then the other. They both put out about the same. The thing I like about the aem is you can tune on the fly and make changes and don;t have to reburn chips. I had AEM version .73 in my car that was stolen and had a ton of problems when I went to version .94. I hear the latest version has corrected most of the problems. Mase set up my aem and has it running pretty dam good. It starts right up and idels fine.
BTW the AEM is not 2 grand. Hondadriven is running a special for like 1175 shipped I think when I was pricing mine. Hope that helps.
BTW the AEM is not 2 grand. Hondadriven is running a special for like 1175 shipped I think when I was pricing mine. Hope that helps.
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ive also had both
aem licks ***(unless you own a supra), it breaks all the time for no good reason and the eprom chips take ***** on you daily. if you want a standalone so bad go get f.a.s.t. or motec or a real standalone that has a good reputation..
judging that you had to ask this question means that you would probably be getting in over your head with the aem..
hondata all the way. K.I.S.S.
aem licks ***(unless you own a supra), it breaks all the time for no good reason and the eprom chips take ***** on you daily. if you want a standalone so bad go get f.a.s.t. or motec or a real standalone that has a good reputation..
judging that you had to ask this question means that you would probably be getting in over your head with the aem..
hondata all the way. K.I.S.S.