CivicEJ1

which do you guys think is best for my SOHC VTEC Turbo?

And I don't want to hit a DYNO shop everytime I need to tune.

I don't mind the learning curve...I love to study...

steve00si

hondata is cheaper than ems so i say go hondata. just my opinion

bbarbulo

how wild do you plan to get??

if you need expandability, the AEM EMS

if you wanna just make it run and leave it alone more or less, Hondata

Marauder

I personally like all the features of the AEM EMS, and the fact that its plug-n-play. Big bonus for OBD2 guys.

I've wanted to get it for my car, but haven't built up the funds enough yet.

I like that you can set it to self learn the tune-up, so you just tune wide open throttle and set what A/F ratio you want and it learns the rest. (my understanding of it)

Before, I have held off since I didn't have a laptop, but I have one now, so its in my future.

civiccpedx

get uberdata, it is free! you just need to know a lot about tuning, but that is what i am going to do with my obdI sohc vtec turbo

b16aej6

hondata all the way...far more versatility....a bit more for the advanced user, but well worth learning to use.

B16aDasher

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I agree

mMmdoOonut

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how so?

SiKid86

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by steve00si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hondata is cheaper than ems so i say go hondata. just my opinion</TD></TR></TABLE> Only if you get the basic system... If you take the features that EMS has and add the features to the hondata system.. They are about the same price and EMS has even more features hondata doesn't have. So It depends..

Brian Hinson

Hondata man great product I have heard lots about it!!

BauleyCivic

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Really? I have first hand experience with both EMS and HondatD. My good friend has Hondata and all of the tuning ****, and i've gone out with him several times to street-tune with it.

Add Hondata s200 base system + P28 ECU + chipping + boost + romulator + pocket programmer + datalogging And you've spent more money for a shittier system than AEM EMS. To tune it, you have to use the romulator to burn yourself a temporary map, then keep re-tuning it and re-loading it with the romulator, then once you're satisifed you burn the program to a chip, and you still have to have the gay blue box attached to the ECU for some reason? If you like that kind of engine management, get uberdata. Its the same crap except its free, but still is FAR inferior than AEM EMS.

EMS is worth every single penny. It is a plug and play, COMPLETELY standalone engine management system. No extra programs and equipment to buy, no sourcing an ECU and chipping it. Not to mention you get base maps, electronic boost control, launch control, A/C cutoff all included in the price.

Hondata is really cool if you have a natually aspirated motor, and will rely on someone else to tune the car for you. Otherwise, AEM EMS is the much better choice.

Kamin

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And I don't want to hit a DYNO shop everytime I need to tune.

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what? once your car is tuned unless you make a modification you shouldnt have to tune it again.

my vote goes for EMS, cant beat it.

chad

apexi power fc

00Red_SiR

I like the Hondata myself and use it on my own car. The AEM EMS is an excellent system but my personal feeling is that it's more advantageous to use on more radical setups where the extra fine tuning ability is really needed. Cars using a high compression engine running a reasonable amount of boost that are raced on the track frequently would be a good example. Anything less than that and Hondata or Uberdata will perform more than adequately.

In order to tune any car properly you will have to use a dyno or at the very least a wideband O2 sensor. Don't think for a second that having an advanced tuning capability will somehow limit that. If you don't want to spend time tuning on a dyno, leave the car stock with the factory ecu and call it a day.

BauleyCivic

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In order to tune any car properly you will have to use a dyno or at the very least a wideband O2 sensor. Don't think for a second that having an advanced tuning capability will somehow limit that. If you don't want to spend time tuning on a dyno, leave the car stock with the factory ecu and call it a day. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Again, even with a wideband 02 you can't tune hondata yourself. You will spend more money trying to tune hondata yourself than you would have if you're trying to tune EMS yourself.

beerbongskickass

Hmm I didn't konw people still buy Hondata...

Uberdata.

plusONE jboy

hondata because its cheaper.

BauleyCivic

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No its not!

Read my post damnit

Calvinator

AEM EMS&gt; uberdata&gt; hondata

1badda

I wanan know the same thing my friend got eg ls vtec with t3/t4 turbonetics kit with hondata and the spike on that mother ****** was up and kept going up up while we were dyno tunnig. it made like 279 at 9psi . HE runing on hondata. I was leaning into aem ems cause my cousin is a certifed tuner and race car driver (turbopeople.com) and he told me go with ems . So i dont know what to chose neither so which is best for the buck . i could get aem ems probaly for like 700-1000. so help please which one would be better for my daily driven d16 turbo???

00Red_SiR

Well based on the rest of the posts here and what you said in your own post, it would appear that AEM EMS is the best choice for you.

beerbongskickass

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No it's not. Spending $1500 on a full stand alone that he doesn't need is retarded, he doesn't have a drag car...

00Red_SiR

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No it's not. Spending $1500 on a full stand alone that he doesn't need is retarded, he doesn't have a drag car...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well if you actually took the time to read his post before responding to mine you'd realize that he said he could get one for between $700-$1000, not $1500. Also as was clearly pointed out by BAULEY, it tends to cost a lot more to tune a Hondata system because it's more labour intensive than the AEM system is and I can certainly vouch for that myself since I also run a Hondata and have spent a pretty penny on tuning it.

A Hondata or Uberdata would certainly be adequate for him but it looks like he also has a cousin that's familiar with tuning the EMS so that would be another reason to go that route.