SuzukaBlueAP2

Didn't know where the best place to post this was, but i'll try here. My buddy and I want to do our own stroker kit for his 2000 SI. We were going to use an LS crank...but we're unsure of what kind of rods and pistons would be good. We're trying to keep everything OEM Honda parts. Anyone have ideas/suggestions ?

B_CRUZ!

trial and error. lol. but I guess you know that it would be cheaper to get a B18C short block. LS crank no fitty.

SuzukaBlueAP2

The LS crank won't fit into the B16 ? I didn't know that actually if that is true.

The Destroyer

What about b20 connecting rods? I dunno if they will hit the head though, maybe get a super mega thic head gasket hehe.

SuzukaBlueAP2

well, the thought crosseed my mind to put the LS crank, rods, and 81mm JE higher compression postons in it, but, i don't think the LS rods will hold up too well. He already revs it to 9k, and has the capability of going to10,200 rpm, but he starts to lose power there.

The Destroyer

Stroke me. Stroker kit baby.

HXMan

You probably can use an LS crank...but as far as I know there are no honda rods that will be the right length for you.

The Destroyer

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HXMan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You probably can use an LS crank...but as far as I know there are no honda rods that will be the right length for you.</TD></TR></TABLE>

What if he where to use stock Si crank, but b20 rods.

topspeed86

Find a 1.7 Crank and rods that will some what stroke it for you. Actually Building one right now.

B16b2b

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MagillaGorilla &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

What if he where to use stock Si crank, but b20 rods. </TD></TR></TABLE>

that would for sure raise compression, but would it really change the stroke, since he wouldn't really extend the stroke by using the stock crank?

The Destroyer

I thought when increasing stroke, the crank and rods are made longer? (i hope you see what i mean). It was just a thought.

EARLdaSQUIRREL

just use stock b17 crank and rods, not .2 liters, but hell .1 liter with all stock parts for cheap is a good upgrade

chad

hey.....just get a gsr block....be awhole lot cheaper....

The Destroyer

Just get a b20 shortblock and change the heads

fowler!

If you use an LS crank/rods, wouldn't you actually be destroking the motor?

allmtr

this is the setup my friend has right now. LS crank in a b16a block. ls rods. custom short pistons
it works

The Destroyer

No, because the b16 is smaller, and with the pistons going up higher, it would create more compression.

fowler!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MagillaGorilla &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No, because the b16 is smaller, and with the pistons going up higher, it would create more compression.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly. With the pistons going up higher, you're decreasing the displacement, not increasing.

The Destroyer

Yea on me. Ok your makin compression; losing displacement.

Hehe, thx for catching m slip.

EDIT- You would still be stroking the motor, but you will lose displacement. But that sounds funny, lol.

EDIT #2- I meant stroking as increasing how high the pistons go, but you loose displacement due to the b16 hehe


Modified by MagillaGorilla at 7:45 PM 7/20/2003

fowler!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MagillaGorilla &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">EDIT- You would still be stroking the motor, but you will lose displacement. But that sounds funny, lol. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually, you'd be destroking the motor.

Stroking = gaining displacement
Destroking = losing displacement

The Destroyer

Ok now i got it, with the b16 block you are destroking it but making compression.

Thx for helping em under stand this lol.

Dancing is Forbidden

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MagillaGorilla &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok now i got it, with the b16 block you are destroking it but making compression.

Thx for helping em under stand this lol. </TD></TR></TABLE>hey chad, someone must have called the Slow Zone. "y0! Let m3 g3ts a Str0ka kit!"

The Destroyer

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EF9_SiR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey chad, someone must have called the Slow Zone. "y0! Let m3 g3ts a Str0ka kit!"</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol **** you man, im happy I finally figured it out.

HXMan

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MagillaGorilla &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

What if he where to use stock Si crank, but b20 rods. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Longer rods won't give you more displacement.
Displacement is stroke X bore.

liam821

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MagillaGorilla &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What about b20 connecting rods?</TD></TR></TABLE>

B20 rods are the same as LS rods. Identical. What makes the difference between the b20 and the LS is the the bore size. B20 has a 84mm while the LS is 81mm.

liam