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Old 12-20-2011, 09:37 AM
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Default High Performance Radiator? Mishimoto, Koyo, Fluidyne

I'm stuck on what radiator I should get.

I'm leaning more towards Mishimoto's 3 row radiator because of their life time warranty.

Although, I have heard Koyo and Fluidyne can be much better.

I have a 97 Honda Civic EX. Will the Mishimoto 3 Row Radiator fit in without any problems. Link here

Should I also get a fan shroud, hoses, new thermostat?
I am also getting a B&M 70264 transmission cooler to go with my new radiator.

My radiator is cracked and looking to replace it for performance and in-case I plan on turbo'ing my car in the future.
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Not necessary even with turbo unless you're planning monster horsepower builds.
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Most all aftermarket companies tailor the 92-00 Civic radiator to the B series motor. The only difference between B and D series on the radiator is the inlet and outlet sizes. The B series is slightly larger. You can get D series hoses to fit with some muscle and silicone lubricant in order to work the hoses on. The hoses will be a PITA to fit onto the radiator, but everything else should be easy to install.

If you are dead set on an aftermarket radiator, I have never had problems with my Mishimoto 2 row. I had this radiator on my JRSC y8, and now it is being used for my H22 swap.

You are getting a transmission cooler? Do you have an automatic transmission?
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Default Re: High Performance Radiator? Mishimoto, Koyo, Fluidyne

I checked my radiator and it seems to be 14" inches.

I'm getting the Honda Civic X-Line Performance Aluminum Radiator 1992-2000 for $255 shipped. It's a 3 row radiator, seems to be 18" so I'm not sure. How this is going to fit. I don't have room for it from what it looks. I will need to do something custom for it. What's the stock radiator size for a 97 honda civic?

I am getting a transmission cooler. I do have an automatic transmission. I'm planning on getting a B&M 70264 transmission cooler to go with my new radiator.

I'm also interested in getting the following with my setup:
Mishimoto Silicone Hoses $72
Mishimoto Thermostat $48
Mishimoto Fan Shroud Kit $129.50
Mishimoto Fan Switch $37.20
Mishimoto Temperature Gauge $52.97
$339.67 TOTAL

Honda Civic X-Line Performance Aluminum Radiator 1992-2000 $255
B&M Performance 70264 24K GVW Trans Cooler $64.63
$319.63

Is it worth it? All my parts would be lifetime warranty and I would have a great cooling system.
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I have been using a Koyo on mine for a few years now. No issues at all.

I never felt that the quality of the mishimoto was any good, but it's cheap compared to fluidine, Koyo, and C&R.
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Default Re: High Performance Radiator? Mishimoto, Koyo, Fluidyne

Originally Posted by bluemc

I'm also interested in getting the following with my setup:
Mishimoto Silicone Hoses $72
Mishimoto Thermostat $48
Mishimoto Fan Shroud Kit $129.50
Mishimoto Fan Switch $37.20
Mishimoto Temperature Gauge $52.97
$339.67 TOTAL
you dont need:
thermostat - Use OE and drill out the hole to be a little larger.
Fan Shroud - Useless. tried it.
Fan switch - you OE switch will work fine

get this fan and it will keep everything cool

http://www.xenocron.com/maradyne-13-...07279fed26af58


Mishimoto fans are cheap plastic ebay style fans sold for 20.00 which they add their sticker and bump the price to 60+
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If you're going to spend that money then get the rad that fits from Go Autoworks and pick up the fan/shroud combo while you're at it.
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What radiator should I get at Go Autoworks a full or a half radiator with a fan/shroud? Is their radiators good quality like Fluidyne?

I do like the Mishimoto because it's a 3 row and lifetime warranty. That's pretty good. It's only $255 shipped as well.

I was taking a look at the Fluidyne which I heard is really good. It's $286 I like this one but there's no lifetime warranty and it's only a 1 row not a 3 row radiator. Does the 1 row or 3 row really matter?

I need help on deciding which route to go. I want to make sure, I choose the right thing so I don't waste money. Thanks.
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Why do you need a full size rad? Not necessary.
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Default Re: High Performance Radiator? Mishimoto, Koyo, Fluidyne

Originally Posted by bluemc
I checked my radiator and it seems to be 14" inches.

I'm getting the Honda Civic X-Line Performance Aluminum Radiator 1992-2000 for $255 shipped. It's a 3 row radiator, seems to be 18" so I'm not sure. How this is going to fit. I don't have room for it from what it looks. I will need to do something custom for it. What's the stock radiator size for a 97 honda civic?

I am getting a transmission cooler. I do have an automatic transmission. I'm planning on getting a B&M 70264 transmission cooler to go with my new radiator.

I'm also interested in getting the following with my setup:
Mishimoto Silicone Hoses $72
Mishimoto Thermostat $48
Mishimoto Fan Shroud Kit $129.50
Mishimoto Fan Switch $37.20
Mishimoto Temperature Gauge $52.97
$339.67 TOTAL

Honda Civic X-Line Performance Aluminum Radiator 1992-2000 $255
B&M Performance 70264 24K GVW Trans Cooler $64.63
$319.63

Is it worth it? All my parts would be lifetime warranty and I would have a great cooling system.
The Civic radiator fits. Numerous people have it and have been running it with no problems. 3 row is overkill. You do not need it. Thermostat will run the car too cold. Pass on that, go with OEM Honda only.

F/S kit is more for looks IMO. Fan switch is fine I guess. It'll just turn your fan on earlier. The temperature gauge cap is for show purposes only. You cannot monitor your temp gauges with a gauge in the engine bay while you are driving. lol

Why not just get a replacement OEM style Automatic transmission radiator, so you would only be spending like $100 as supposed to $300+? Cooling systems usually need to be upgraded only if they have to. Otherwise, OEM spec is just as good IMO.

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Why do you need a full size rad? Not necessary.
Full size rad? I thought he was referring to the half rad for Civics, but the 3 row option being offered by Mishimoto.
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Default Re: High Performance Radiator? Mishimoto, Koyo, Fluidyne

In post #8 he asked if he should get a full or half sized rad. At this point I don't think he needs anything but OEM replacements.
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Default Re: High Performance Radiator? Mishimoto, Koyo, Fluidyne

from the sound of it and it being an auto just get OEM everything.
no need for a 3 row, full size, f/s kit, t-oil cooler.
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I will be adding turbo to this car, eventually. It's going to be a slow build, however. Even though, it's an automatic transmission. This is my daily driver which I want to have a little kick.

I am going to call Honda see how much an OEM radiator is but if it's around $150. I will probably purchase the Fluidyne Radiator with a slim fan.

I am getting a Transmission Cooler because I have had my automatic transmission blown out twice so far. I just recently got it rebuilt and want it to last for the next 5-10 years if possible.

Why would you need a 3 row radiator out of curiosity?
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As slow as the automatic will be, even boosted, you STILL will not need anything but stock.
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I just called Honda. They said an OEM Radiator for my 97 Civic is going to be $331.99.

I think, I'm going to go with the Fluidyne Radiator or C&R and a B&M Oil Cooler 70264. I need a stronger transmission cooler than the stock, if the stock has one.
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Default Re: High Performance Radiator? Mishimoto, Koyo, Fluidyne

Originally Posted by grumblemarc
In post #8 he asked if he should get a full or half sized rad. At this point I don't think he needs anything but OEM replacements.
second that!
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Default Re: High Performance Radiator? Mishimoto, Koyo, Fluidyne

lmfao yea honda seems to always over kill the prices on things like these lol...
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Just get an OEM replacement from the auto parts store. maybe $80.
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Default Re: High Performance Radiator? Mishimoto, Koyo, Fluidyne

i did my swap from a d to a b and the stock one broke, went to advanced got one at dealer cost $50, works like champ!!! and i got plenty of bolt ons!
if anything get the koyo stock replacement, come 2 row and at a good price!
my buddy with a monster b2b rocks it and it fights like rocky

http://www.koyorad.com/search.asp
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http://www.koyoradracing.com/product...earch+Products

this really....
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A dealer has high prices on OEM parts? Holy crap!

I buy all my OEM parts from internet dealers and my rear end still hurts after each order, but at least they've averaged about half of what a local dealer expects me to pay (can you say gouging?).

If you want an upgraded radiator I see no reason to not buy one from Go Autoworks like Marc suggested. Otherwise just go over to Napa or whatever parts store and buy an OEM style radiator off the shelf. Which Marc also suggested.
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D-series rad for GA and Plug-N-Play slim fan and shroud from slimfan.com. That's what I run and it's overkill. But I plan on having the engine and turbo setup upgraded by summer.
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They dont call it a stealership for nothing.
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automatic turbo :ugh


Originally Posted by HiProfile
FYI its the trans that will be your weakest link. Auto D16 trannies are not very tough, and if you don't add a huge tranny cooler, you'll be changing your fluid every 1k miles until it dies 5-10k miles later. And thats with a small turbo/low boost... Fast automatic Hondas are not common because it just doesn't work great. In the end, you'd be faster with a Ford Taurus SHO.
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