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Old 07-19-2003, 10:48 AM
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My best freind's ride is a 2000 SiR(Si in USA) of which he loves to drag race on weekends. However, he's extremely mad at the car right now. His current mods at the moment are a CAI/H/E and his best ET to date is a 16.0 at 86 mph. Last weekend in the 88' heat he ran a best of 16.3. Needless to say he's pissed at his times and is having an Apex'i V-AFC controller installed next Tuesday to get him into the 15's. Are his times slow for a 2000 B16A equipped coupe? How much is that VTEC controller gonna help?
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I've seen slower. does he have any extra weight? what exactly are his mods?
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We tore out most of the sound deadening tar in his trunk, and he usually runs with no spare tire and full interior. As far as I know everything else is just like a normal Si. He's running a DC knockoff header(4-1, i think the header sucks personally), an AEM CAI and a generic fireball muffler with custom piping(high flow rezonator). I've heard that with those mods an Si should be in the 15's, but he's not, and he's pissed.
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It should be in the 15's... But every car is different though... My friend ran a best of 15.7 in his Si with just a AEM CAI...
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That's pretty good, and also another reason he's mad is cuz his previous best was a 16.2 with just a short ram on it. Now he's added the extras and he's ran 16.0 twice, but on average is slower than his 16.2 that he posted previously without the header, cai or exhaust. Maybe the VTEC controller will get him in there. He's the only one in our city of 200,000 people to buy it.
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anyone else on here install a VAFC Controller on an Si? Did you you recieve any significant gains?
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I'd say practice would probably help more then any other mod. Do you know the rest of the time slip? 60ft 1/8th mile etc?
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ur friend shouldnt b pissed at his car he should b pissed at himself. fact is SIs run about 15.7 stock. so with a bad driver such as him 16 flat isnt too bad. so he had a short ram and ran 16.2 then spent another $800 or so on worthless mods that gained him hardly anything. i suggest he research what he buys and learn to drive the car. a VAFC wont do **** for him unless its tuned by wideband A/F guage or on the dyno. so there goes another $300 down the *******. with damn near almost stock car anyways id say that even the VAFC tuned isnt goin to give him much of anything. he sounds like a wanna b racer and in reality hes a ricer and since hes not man enough to admit that he cant drive hes gotta blame something other than himself. research is his friend, he should do some and use it wisely.
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Default Re: 2000 SiR 1/4 Mile times....Brutal? (1 2 NV)

Where are you guys located?

Sounds like some really high place like Saskatchewan or something?

How old is the SiR? I think you need to look elsewhere for "power" try the clutch.... SiR clutches are notorious to be the biggest POS on the car....

we've gone 14.7 with stock internals + intake, header, testpipe, stock catback and no rear seats here in BC when the clutch was still freshy fresh.... with a best of 14.4x open header knocking off low 2.2x 60fts all day on fugged up Toyo T1 Plus (predecessor to the now T1S)
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1 2 NV &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ur friend shouldnt b pissed at his car he should b pissed at himself. fact is SIs run about 15.7 stock. so with a bad driver such as him 16 flat isnt too bad. so he had a short ram and ran 16.2 then spent another $800 or so on worthless mods that gained him hardly anything. i suggest he research what he buys and learn to drive the car. a VAFC wont do **** for him unless its tuned by wideband A/F guage or on the dyno. so there goes another $300 down the *******. with damn near almost stock car anyways id say that even the VAFC tuned isnt goin to give him much of anything. he sounds like a wanna b racer and in reality hes a ricer and since hes not man enough to admit that he cant drive hes gotta blame something other than himself. research is his friend, he should do some and use it wisely.</TD></TR></TABLE>I haven't even seen one run that stock. I've seen them run 16's around here. maybe its the driver.
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Default Re: 2000 SiR 1/4 Mile times....Brutal? (RagingAngel)

Just got back from the track, ran the same 16.3... your right i was pissed, but i hit fuel cut off TWICE... which was unexpected... forgot it cut at 8200... and major wheel hop.... shitty street tires.... ... TIME FOR THE ITR BLOCK!!!

oh yeah, completely stock... nothing taken out or put in... power everything and sun roof... heavy bitch!!!
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Yes, you're correct, we do race here in Saskatoon at SIR where our elevation is 1700 feet. We're high, but not that high.
As for him being a bad driver, I don't think that's the real problem. He completed the BMW Driver Training School last summer, so he knows how to go around curves as well as a straight line.
His 60 foot times usually range from 2.37 to 2.42, depending on how much psi he's got in the fronts.
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Comptech Icebox
Comptech exhaust
DC 4-2-1 SS header

ran 15.3 on azenis with no spare and one notch of 103 octane fuel.
44 degree weather.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Paranoid Android &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Comptech Icebox
Comptech exhaust
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ran 15.3 on azenis with no spare and one notch of 103 octane fuel.
44 degree weather.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Whats with the high oct fuel??? how does that help a stock motor? I would think it would slow you down.
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A local friend Went 15.0@94 with Intake and Exhaust!

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what was ur 60 ft? if its above 2.2 or 2.3 thats the problem...
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His 60 foots are around 2.4, mine are around 2.35 with 13 inch rims on the front, and i'm hittin 15.5, so he should he around 15.9 in my view
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tell him to learn how to drive ...also what elevation is he at...that could play a big role
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1700 feet above sea level. and it's not him, it's the car, cuz it's consistently bad. His best passes of 16.0 came 3 times in a row on the same day. He went out 2 weeks later to an evening race and was running 16.3's while losing to Integra LS's and D series Civic, he was ready to kill his car. So he's consistent, so is the car, but the engine is just all over the map from day to day.
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Default Re: 2000 SiR 1/4 Mile times....Brutal? (95JDMZC)

not to go off topic...i didnt know JDM ZC's came with VTEC...did you do a head swap?
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hows the clutch rite now
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Default Re: 2000 SiR 1/4 Mile times....Brutal? (BauleyCivic)

dude it really comes down to the driver and his car. how well does he know his car??? what tires does he run with??? what PSI are in them??? where does he launch at??? ive got a 4dr eg with a b16 type-r h/e/cams, and a vafc and i can hit a high 13.....its all about how well u know ur car.
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Nope, my engine is a 1993 SOHC VTEC motor from Japan. It's got ZC stamped right on the block.
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theres definetly something wrong there, I ran a 15.5 with just my aem cai at the track the other day at fontana, and that was my first time at the track ! but its obviously wasnt my first run of the day , i ran a 16.0 first time. Then it just got better from there
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Why don't you drive his car and he drive yours and see where you end up? Some motors are just stronger than others.


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