Notices
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

help for newbie?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-01-2004, 05:01 PM
  #1  
Thread Starter
 
sinai92lx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Severn, MD, US
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default help for newbie?

92 civic lx 4 door $3000-5000 budget, d15, suggestions?
Old 10-01-2004, 05:04 PM
  #2  
 
Kyles ej1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: bay area, ca, USA
Posts: 5,843
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: help for newbie? (sinai92lx)

wtf r u talking about? did u read the rules at all? did u even know there were rules
Old 10-01-2004, 05:05 PM
  #3  
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
mike1114's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: I drink Seafoam and poo into catch cans, USA
Posts: 3,215
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Re: help for newbie? (sinai92lx)

low budget turbo setup. Buy a used complete kit from someone, and use 7 lbs of boost, no more on stock sleeves for D series.

this is your best bang for the buck, will net you the lowest times at the track with your budget.

Swapping a motor will NOT give you as much power as the turbo setup would. You'll kick yourself if you swap motors, trust me, keep the D.

after that work on suspension and traction and driving skills.

EDIT::: use search function and read and learn!!!
Old 10-01-2004, 05:06 PM
  #4  
 
fms1day's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Sitting In My EHTwo, CA
Posts: 1,055
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: help for newbie? (egcoupe)

why be harsh? Just ask him to clarify his question and then point him to the right direction...
Old 10-01-2004, 05:07 PM
  #5  
 
Kyles ej1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: bay area, ca, USA
Posts: 5,843
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: help for newbie? (jhu eg6)

k sorry n00b. can u plz rephrase your ? in english since alot of ppl here speak it
Old 10-01-2004, 05:12 PM
  #6  
Member
 
SOHC4life 96's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Somewhere to anywhere, Ca
Posts: 4,982
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 3 Posts
Default Re: help for newbie? (egcoupe)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sinai92lx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">92 civic lx 4 door $3000-5000 budget, d15, suggestions?</TD></TR></TABLE>

He has a 92 4 door lx civic. His budget is $3000-$5000, the engine is a d15. He wants suggestions on what to do with it.
Old 10-01-2004, 05:16 PM
  #7  
Honda-Tech Member
 
specv5150's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: San Marcos, TX
Posts: 3,116
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: help for newbie? (mike1114)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike1114 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">low budget turbo setup. Buy a used complete kit from someone, and use 7 lbs of boost, no more on stock sleeves for D series.

this is your best bang for the buck, will net you the lowest times at the track with your budget.

Swapping a motor will NOT give you as much power as the turbo setup would. You'll kick yourself if you swap motors, trust me, keep the D.

after that work on suspension and traction and driving skills.

EDIT::: use search function and read and learn!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>



With your budget you can get a low to medium budget turbo and wreck shop. I turboed my car for less than 2K
Old 10-01-2004, 05:29 PM
  #8  
 
fms1day's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Sitting In My EHTwo, CA
Posts: 1,055
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: help for newbie? (mike1114)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike1114 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">low budget turbo setup. Buy a used complete kit from someone, and use 7 lbs of boost, no more on stock sleeves for D series.

this is your best bang for the buck, will net you the lowest times at the track with your budget.

Swapping a motor will NOT give you as much power as the turbo setup would. You'll kick yourself if you swap motors, trust me, keep the D.

after that work on suspension and traction and driving skills.

EDIT::: use search function and read and learn!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>



And like he mentioned, don't be afraid to try the Search function... try typing in d15 under archived content and see what H-T members did with it... Godd Luck with H-T, because I'm just learning as well..
Old 10-02-2004, 04:22 AM
  #9  
Thread Starter
 
sinai92lx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Severn, MD, US
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: help for newbie?

I did do a search, but often i couldn't find the budget. i appologise to the elder board posters that have probably seen this topic before- many times. the mods im considering right now are a mini-me head swap and ex transmission. i know the compression will jump with the mini-me will i have to lower it to run say.. .5 bar boost? since there is no turbo kit (that i have found) for the d15, what all will have to be upgraded to handle boost? electronics, ignition, etc?

what d series parts are interchangeable? where can i find engine codes and related stats and information: timing, compression, bore-stroke, cont...
Old 10-02-2004, 05:42 AM
  #10  
Honda-Tech Member
 
slambedcivic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Harbeson, De, USA
Posts: 3,823
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: help for newbie? (sinai92lx)

hmm youve got a 3-5 k budget? and you guys are talking about keeping the d series motor? the 102 hp motor? 1500 bucks will get you a complete LS swap. everything you need. then you search H-T for a use b series turbo kit... 1500-2000 for something good. youre at 3500 right there. youve got 1500 left for decent wheel/tire combo and minor suspension upgrades.


dude at the track has a 95 coupe where i live... DX, with a greddy kit on it. his best pass has be a 14.30. but hes consistent @ 14.60's. ive gotta 92 hatch, with a 96 LS swap in it. im consistent @ 14.60's as well... i spent 1400 for my swap, and he spent 3000 for his kit, installed, and tuned.


Modified by slambedcivic at 11:21 AM 10/2/2004
Old 10-02-2004, 05:49 AM
  #11  
Senior Member
 
murmur9's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: louisville, ky, USA
Posts: 1,017
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: help for newbie? (sinai92lx)

go take a look at http://www.homemadeturbo.com or http://www.turbod16.com
Old 10-02-2004, 05:51 AM
  #12  
Senior Member
 
murmur9's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: louisville, ky, USA
Posts: 1,017
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: help for newbie? (slambedcivic)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slambedcivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hmm youve got a 3-5 k budget? and you guys are talking about keeping the d series motor? the 102 hp motor? 1500 bucks will get you a complete LS swap. everything you need. then you search H-T for a use b series turbo kit... 1500-2000 for something good. youre at 3500 right there. youve got 1500 left for decent wheel/tire combo and minor suspension upgrades.


dude at the track has a 95 coupe where i live... DX, with a greddy kit on it. his best pass has be a 14.30. but hes consistent @ 14.60's. ive gotta 92 hatch, with a 96 LS swap in it. im consistent @ 14.60's as well... i spend 1400 for my swap, and he spend 3000 for his kit, installed, and tuned.</TD></TR></TABLE>


i disagree.....


Old 10-02-2004, 06:51 AM
  #13  
Thread Starter
 
sinai92lx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Severn, MD, US
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: help for newbie?

already have wheels, tires, full suspension, and intake. okay, i'm somewhat new to honda. im a nissan guy trying to help mod a friends car. eventually he's going to take this over but anyway... LS is the base model integra? is that the b17? a friend of mine who runs a shop out here advised me against the b17 when i was scouring the boneyard for a vtec engine. anywho, thanks much for the information. keep it coming!
Old 10-02-2004, 07:00 AM
  #14  
Honda-Tech Member
 
specv5150's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: San Marcos, TX
Posts: 3,116
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: help for newbie? (sinai92lx)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sinai92lx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">already have wheels, tires, full suspension, and intake. okay, i'm somewhat new to honda. im a nissan guy trying to help mod a friends car. eventually he's going to take this over but anyway... LS is the base model integra? is that the b17? a friend of mine who runs a shop out here advised me against the b17 when i was scouring the boneyard for a vtec engine. anywho, thanks much for the information. keep it coming!</TD></TR></TABLE>

RS/LS = B18A/B
GSR (up to 92 I beleive I am not sure) =B17
GSR (after whatever year the B17 stopped)= B18C1
ITR B18C5
Old 10-02-2004, 07:21 AM
  #15  
Honda-Tech Member
 
slambedcivic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Harbeson, De, USA
Posts: 3,823
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: help for newbie? (murmur9)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by murmur9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i disagree..... </TD></TR></TABLE>
with what?
Old 10-02-2004, 07:26 AM
  #16  
Thread Starter
 
sinai92lx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Severn, MD, US
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: help for newbie?

i started looking for an ls engine, and found a b16a at jspec auto sports for pretty cheap $975 for a complete long block, according to various swap matrices this is a bolt in replacement, good idea? anyone bought from them, what about nippon motors, any suggestions? also with the ls would i want to do a frankenstein or just boost the non-vtec?
Old 10-02-2004, 07:33 AM
  #17  
Honda-Tech Member
 
slambedcivic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Harbeson, De, USA
Posts: 3,823
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: help for newbie? (sinai92lx)

boosting the non VTEC is a great idea... with a compression ratio of 9.2:1 is a great 300 WHP platform. and it can be done rather inexpensively. you can add a VTEC head to it only to create more airflow in the head.
Old 10-02-2004, 07:36 AM
  #18  
Thread Starter
 
sinai92lx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Severn, MD, US
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: help for newbie?

well i figure if i can bolt a b16 vtec head to a b18 non-vtec block and thus widen the usable powerband how can i go wrong? i want to keep this car as streetable as possible. also, anyone have any rear ends with disc brakes that will fit a '92 lx sedan?
Old 10-02-2004, 07:40 AM
  #19  
Honda-Tech Member
 
slambedcivic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Harbeson, De, USA
Posts: 3,823
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: help for newbie? (sinai92lx)

thatll work. ive heard stories about the LS/VTEC not being so reliable... have a witnessed it, no. there are a few running around here.

94-01 integra rear disc will bolt right on...youll need the master cylinder, and the proportioning valve
Old 10-02-2004, 08:04 AM
  #20  
ABK
Honda-Tech Member
 
ABK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: I HATE, RICE
Posts: 3,765
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: help for newbie? (sinai92lx)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sinai92lx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i figure if i can bolt a b16 vtec head to a b18 non-vtec block and thus widen the usable powerband how can i go wrong? i want to keep this car as streetable as possible. also, anyone have any rear ends with disc brakes that will fit a '92 lx sedan?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I would just go LS turbo, for now (just hope that your friend isn't throttle happy). He could get like 220-250whp out of it safely I would say with a turbo. Then if he wants to go faster I would either pull out the motor and totaly rebuild it and slap a vtec head on it, or just trow on some arp rod bolts, and head studs and slap a vtec head on it. But the thing is to take full advantage of a vtec head you need to rev the motor higher (I'm not saying that you will gain no power down low neither). This will cause motor to work alot harder since it got a pretty long stroke compared to vtec b series.

Rev to high= throw a rod, spin a bearing, tapper the cylinder
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Rizz
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
7
02-07-2007 03:33 AM
tomlinson619
Forced Induction
7
05-26-2006 10:54 PM
Dx_Civic_Dx
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
12
09-14-2003 07:19 PM
civic5483
Hybrid / Engine Swaps
8
09-14-2003 05:09 PM



Quick Reply: help for newbie?



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:50 PM.