Frost_1097

I have a 94 honda del sol si vtec 5 speed, the car is lowered and it has a AEM cold air intake . it rained really hard and long story short I sucked some water up my tube. I cleaned the filter(K&N) replaced the plugs, shot all the water out of the cylenders and let it sit for three days. THan I bought a new battery and threw in it. Now, I know you can hydrolock a engine because water does not combust. but the car has been trying to turn over. but after trying to turn it over it just tuds. Which I know isn't good. IT won't roll start either. I just need to know what I'm up against or what I should try next. I figured it is either locked up or I bent a valve in there. Please let me know what you think ? THanks a lot everyone.

JDM_EK_wanabe

did you try to turn it over with the plugs out to get the water out? also let the plugs sit for a while to dry them off if you didnt do that. I dont think that you could have bent a valve, that usually happens when your piston slaps that valve because the timing is way off or the camshaft is really f'ed up

smileycvc

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I guess you dont actually know what hydrolock is. When you suck water enough water through your intake in a short period of time it can become trapped in your cylinder. since water cannot be compressed either your rods will bend or your valves will bend. Usually the valve will give away before the rod.

To the OP try cranking the car with the all the spark plugs out. then dry the spark plugs out for a while and try again. If that doesnt work pull the head and check the valves it really isnt as hard as you may think and it can save you a whole lot of money.

JDM_EK_wanabe

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I guess you dont actually know what hydrolock is. When you suck water enough water through your intake in a short period of time it can become trapped in your cylinder. since water cannot be compressed either your rods will bend or your valves will bend. Usually the valve will give away before the rod.

To the OP try cranking the car with the all the spark plugs out. then dry the spark plugs out for a while and try again. If that doesnt work pull the head and check the valves it really isnt as hard as you may think and it can save you a whole lot of money.</TD></TR></TABLE>

sorry i dont know alot about hydrolocking, but i was just trying to help the guy, and you pretty much just told him to do what i said, so i guess i know what to do if it happens at least

Frost_1097

well, i did pull the plugs and try turning it over and watched as water came shooting out my head. than i let it sit for a few days and put new new spark plugs in it. if i was to pull the vlave cover off, could i check the valves that way? can you buy just valves? thankls/

Frost_1097

lets say I did bend some valves, I bolted on a new head would that fix my problems? someone please help.

smileycvc

yes, if the valves were your only problem. You can just get new valves though if thats all you messed up.

98coupe

iTrader: (1)

Just pull the head and see what damage you have done.

hifonics

if u bent valves and your gonna just replace them u gotta check the valve guides 2

JDMproblem

isnt there a way to prevent water from going into engine from cai?

del_slow420

do a compression test before you pull the head that will tell u if you need to pull your head off or not

ke98248

iTrader: (1)

um yeah JDM problem, you buy/use a bypass valve.. It prevents water from being sucked into your IM.. Goes between the tubing from after the filter and before the IM.

smileycvc

^^^wow where did the signature come from?

Also the best way to keep water out of your motor is to not use a cai.

TypeRasta

Yes I agree. Short ram is just as good and you don't have to worry about water getting sucked up. I know several people that have used cai and this exact thing has happened to them. good luck.

Libertariat

Bypass valve, drive slowly, and watch out for puddles.

Frost_1097

yeah Cold air intake is something I'll never have again. I just bought a B16 and I'm going to swap it, and it comes with a short ram so that's a plus. But thanks for all the responses.

amej8

Honda motors don't have enough displacement for an intake to really make a noticeable difference. Just stick with something safe instead of something not as safe that will give you a few more ponies on a good day of driving.

And bypass valves defeat the purpose of a cold air intake. It disrupts the flow of air through the tubing and also allows warm air to seep through.

Short ram intake FTW or even stock box with removed resonator and high-flow filter.