Help with intake.
07-23-2005, 11:51 AM
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Help with intake.
I've been geting mixed signals about going cold air or just short ram. Further than that I can't decide on a brand, kinda a toss up between AEM or K&N. Any suggestions? 
07-24-2005, 02:03 PM
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Re: Help with intake. (CaponeGotti)
Make a custom intake: I've been through many intakes... eBay, AEM short ram, CAI, generic short ram etc, and this setup is by far my favorite. I used the DIY setup like the one at bretq's site: http://www.geocities.com/bretq/modifications.html
but I cut a 3 inch chrome pipe from a short ram to fit the setup... I needed to buy a 3.00 inch to 3.25 inch silicone step coupler to attach the pipe to the stock intake elbow. Then I ran a 3 inch dryer hose from the stock intake box to the front air dam as pictured. I can run it with the box open or closed. The great thing about this setup is that it utilizes the stock hardware and combines the best of both worlds (short ram and CAI) much like the Comptech ice box.
but I cut a 3 inch chrome pipe from a short ram to fit the setup... I needed to buy a 3.00 inch to 3.25 inch silicone step coupler to attach the pipe to the stock intake elbow. Then I ran a 3 inch dryer hose from the stock intake box to the front air dam as pictured. I can run it with the box open or closed. The great thing about this setup is that it utilizes the stock hardware and combines the best of both worlds (short ram and CAI) much like the Comptech ice box.
07-24-2005, 02:13 PM
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Re: (Archidictus)
what do you mean by holster? If you are talking about the bottom half of the stock intake box, then yes, you are right that this is slightly inhibiting the full flow of air on the lower half of the filter.... a larger "custom fabricated" box about the size of an NSX airbox would be more ideal with a pipe going to the high beam light position allowing maximum air induction. This is my main problem with the design of the Comptech Icebox (the airbox is too small, leaving little airspace around the filter element).... that and the fact that it uses a UNI foam air filter.
Regarding filtration... as long as there isn't a leak in my system (which there isn't) then filtration isn't affected... i.e. removal of contaminants before they reach the engine.
The issue you bring up is precisely why I leave the top of the box off... I have tried the filter without the box, and there wasn't a noticeable difference in throttle response. I am too lazy to custom fab a box
Modified by 94integrals at 5:13 PM 7/24/2005
Regarding filtration... as long as there isn't a leak in my system (which there isn't) then filtration isn't affected... i.e. removal of contaminants before they reach the engine.
The issue you bring up is precisely why I leave the top of the box off... I have tried the filter without the box, and there wasn't a noticeable difference in throttle response. I am too lazy to custom fab a box
Modified by 94integrals at 5:13 PM 7/24/2005
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Re: (94integrals)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GDR888 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ebay CAI elbow and K&N filter </TD></TR></TABLE>
I have a replica Apexi filter, and from my experience, it has been my favorite. i have also heard from many sources that they give max hp because of the open-ended design.
-Shane
I have a replica Apexi filter, and from my experience, it has been my favorite. i have also heard from many sources that they give max hp because of the open-ended design.
-Shane
07-24-2005, 05:46 PM
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Re: Help with intake. (GDR888)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GDR888 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ebay CAI elbow and K&N filter 
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Yes, do not spend more than $40 on an intake. All intakes are the same, the only thing that matters is the filter. Spending anything more than $40 is just plain stupid.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Yes, do not spend more than $40 on an intake. All intakes are the same, the only thing that matters is the filter. Spending anything more than $40 is just plain stupid.
07-24-2005, 06:47 PM
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Re: (92'si)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92’si »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so what im hearing is get a cheap cai pipe off ebay then buy a good filter?</TD></TR></TABLE>
That would be the idea. Pretty much all pipes are made the same, but the filters make a little bit of a difference.
-Shane
That would be the idea. Pretty much all pipes are made the same, but the filters make a little bit of a difference.
-Shane
07-25-2005, 02:45 AM
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Re: (nighttrain33)
If legality is a concern then stick with a name brand system with a CARB EO#.
As for CAI vs short intake, there's no real noticeable difference over stock except for a lighter wallet.
On a stock D16Z6 Civic tested on a 248C Dynojet the Iceman CAI and the Iceman short ram both made 3 peak hp over stock. The CAI configuration did have a peak gain of 6hp in the midrange but in daily driving that 6hp is not noticeable and you'd be out about $200 or so. This all resulted in less than a half second improvement in the 1/4 mile and less than a mile an hour increase in the 1/4 mile trap speed.
I would recommend an Iceman because you can configure the intake as a CAI or short ram. The Iceman also did not have any losses, unlike the 1-2hp loss below 3000rpm with an AEM CAI on the same car.
As for CAI vs short intake, there's no real noticeable difference over stock except for a lighter wallet.
On a stock D16Z6 Civic tested on a 248C Dynojet the Iceman CAI and the Iceman short ram both made 3 peak hp over stock. The CAI configuration did have a peak gain of 6hp in the midrange but in daily driving that 6hp is not noticeable and you'd be out about $200 or so. This all resulted in less than a half second improvement in the 1/4 mile and less than a mile an hour increase in the 1/4 mile trap speed.
I would recommend an Iceman because you can configure the intake as a CAI or short ram. The Iceman also did not have any losses, unlike the 1-2hp loss below 3000rpm with an AEM CAI on the same car.
07-25-2005, 03:57 AM
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Re: (92'si)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92’si »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so what im hearing is get a cheap cai pipe off ebay then buy a good filter?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes.
Yes.
07-26-2005, 05:56 PM
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Re: (92'si)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92’si »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i just like to hear other opinions/recomendations. short ram it is tho.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Good luck.
Good luck.
07-26-2005, 06:01 PM
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Re: (JDM-EJ1)
My personal preference is the knockoff J's Racing style intakes on ebay. The red "whale *****" intake. I love the way it sounds, and the sense of increased throttle response. Plus, it sounds great. Get a good filter, as everyone else has said.
Fun & affordable!
Fun & affordable!
07-26-2005, 06:03 PM
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Re: (The Redemption)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by The Redemption »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My personal preference are the knockoff J's Racing style intakes on ebay. The red "whale *****" intake. I love the way it sounds, and the sense of increased throttle response. Plus, it sounds great. Get a good filter, as everyone else has said.
Fun & affordable! </TD></TR></TABLE>
How much do the knockoffs go for?
Fun & affordable!
</TD></TR></TABLE>How much do the knockoffs go for?
07-26-2005, 06:05 PM
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Re: (JDM-EJ1)
Pretty damn cheap, I got one for around $40 + shipping last year. Just do a search on ebay, they usually run as much as "AEM" knockoffs, and such.
Passwordjdm sells a carbonfiber knockoff, but its more pricey. A friend has one on his B16 coupe, and it sounds incredibly mean, and adds that "bling" to your engine bay if you're into that kind've thing.
I don't know about you, but I'm into "cheap", as long as I'm not cutting corners too much.
(I'm limited to posts, as a n00b again... so I'll check ebay tonight and see what I dig up and let you know, It has been awhile since I've bought it. It did come with a very cheap *** filter, though, but what do you expect, its ebay)
Passwordjdm sells a carbonfiber knockoff, but its more pricey. A friend has one on his B16 coupe, and it sounds incredibly mean, and adds that "bling" to your engine bay if you're into that kind've thing.
I don't know about you, but I'm into "cheap", as long as I'm not cutting corners too much.
(I'm limited to posts, as a n00b again... so I'll check ebay tonight and see what I dig up and let you know, It has been awhile since I've bought it. It did come with a very cheap *** filter, though, but what do you expect, its ebay)
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Re: (The Redemption)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by The Redemption »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Pretty damn cheap, I got one for around $40 + shipping last year.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Oh wow, filter and all? That's not bad at all.
Oh wow, filter and all? That's not bad at all.
07-26-2005, 06:08 PM
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bah, a 3" heating duct connected to my stock IM, to where the stock airbox used to sit, a heating duct elbow and another peice of heating duct going into the hole where the stock aribox connected to the stock piping and a second elbow connecting at last a Ractive filter where the stock intake resonater used to sit and sealed aformentioned piping with duct-tape will have to do till the motor swap, why spend money on a motor thats gona sit in the garage in a few months? the thin material and lack of sound-damping creates an incredibly loud roar, its sucking up cold air, noticible diffrence under the pedal at high rpm. ghetto, but effective.
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Re: (Sleepy_Red_hatch)
31$ off ebay, with a filter.
Ceramic coated it myself, amsoil foam air filter, filters fantastically, very high flowing, 23$ and its lifetime, reoil once a year and wash with soap and water. Made the engine deeper. Some guy made his own CAI and dyno'd it versus a AEM CAI. he ceramic coated the inside AND outside tho. The difference was 1hp. Also, if ya dont have a EX or SI with the hole, dont bother cutting that big hole in the frame, get a short ram and ceramic paint it yourself to help it a big. Power difference is pretty much unnoticable between a SRI and CAI.
I apologise for the ducttaping, it was sturdy tho, but is now secured properly.
P.S. I'm afraid of hydrolock and drive in the rain everytime it rains, and I love puddles.
Modified by Redline96LX at 1:31 AM 7/27/2005
Ceramic coated it myself, amsoil foam air filter, filters fantastically, very high flowing, 23$ and its lifetime, reoil once a year and wash with soap and water. Made the engine deeper. Some guy made his own CAI and dyno'd it versus a AEM CAI. he ceramic coated the inside AND outside tho. The difference was 1hp. Also, if ya dont have a EX or SI with the hole, dont bother cutting that big hole in the frame, get a short ram and ceramic paint it yourself to help it a big. Power difference is pretty much unnoticable between a SRI and CAI.
I apologise for the ducttaping, it was sturdy tho, but is now secured properly.
P.S. I'm afraid of hydrolock and drive in the rain everytime it rains, and I love puddles.
Modified by Redline96LX at 1:31 AM 7/27/2005
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