cfauvel

My wife drives a 1993 DelSol with the smallest motor. It is painfully slow.

The engine is either burning lots of oil or the rear and front main seals are leaking like sieves.

I need some links to places that sell rebuilt motors for this car, and what are my options to get more HP out of the car easily.

If I increase the compression ratio and change out the cam (part number suggestions please) would I have to get a different computer?


Or would simply replacing piston rings, rear/main seals, water pump, timing belt be a cheaper option.


Either way I cannot remove the engine myself, not competent enough to try to on a front wheel drive car.

White_EG1

Don't understand you want to rebuild it or swap it out? Lol I have the same car with same motor yes it's sadly slow, but the motor was built for fuel economy NOT performance.

It's up to you if you want to diagnose the burning oil problem or main seal leak, main seal is pretty easy and would not be too expensive of a fix if you DIY, burning oil on the other hand not so much, could be a lot of things,

If I were you, I would compression test the motor, If get bad results just swap out the motor, wouldn't be worth it to save the d15 to me. And no if you put cam and internals in the d15 with bolt on it won't net you barely anything, maybe 10-15 hp. Cause of such small displacement. Keep in mind to do that it would pretty much cost as much as a full overhaul of your motor with a much more powerful one.

cfauvel

Yeah I am weighing the options. What motors are available to be put into the car...and wouldn't I need a different computer....I'm looking for easiest swap route if swapping is the best course for the money.

The accord's 2.2L would be awesome in this thing...or even the 1.8L.

White_EG1

Accord 2.2 liter will take a lot modification, and wiring. What I'm looking at right now is the jdm 99-00 honda crv b20b motor, from hmotorsonline, it has nice torque, exactly what the stock d series motors lack, and slap a b16 or b18c1 cylinder head on which will increase cp ratio, you have a easy 165 bhp 150 tq. With good bolt ons even more, that IMO is your best bet. Not just saying it cause I'm doing it, but the motor is cheap, if your doing it at a shop it will also be cheaper than a Accord motor. Watch out for fishy shops too bro take it to one you trust and with good reviews and all.

NotARaCist

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You're an '04 who doesn't know what the ******* FAQ sticky is. Are you serious right now? Go read. We aren't here to hold your hand.

grumblemarc

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Never said what engine is in it now.

ejv8s10

Yeah, he did. He used the technical term, and that's why you may have missed it. LOL.

slomofo

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Smallest engine easiest to re ring, I do it on the car.

Pull head
Pull oil pan
Pull pistons
Ball hone dat bish
Buy some new rings
yadda yadda yadda
Hit up the local high school and show off your sweet ride to all the people in the world who will appreciate it.

NotARaCist

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Smallest or biggest, all of the Ds and Bs are easy to re-ring without pulling the block.

slomofo

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Glad you were here to clear that up for us.


Your constant desire to 1UP everyone in tech, add additional useless information to, and/or argue against every reply is much appreciated. Here's to the next thread where you 1UP, argue against, or add useless additional info to

NotARaCist

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I was agreeing with you. If you're going to complain about someone posting without adding anything to a thread, maybe you should think about putting something useful to the thread in your rambling diatribe.

cfauvel

uhm yeah.

Thanks SloMo and White, that is the kind of discourse I was looking for.

I am suspect of the rear and front seal as well.

and at the smallest size of the DelSol engines, 1.5L, was wondering what options I had, out side of turbo or supercharging.

White, I am not as familiar with the JDM nomenclature, I don't deal with the minutia of variants in the Honda family of engines. So more precise and verbose designation and explanation will be required.

Slomo - thanks, for the basic re-ring steps for this engine, not unlike what I did in college on my 302.


NotARacist - don't bother reading or replying to this thread, you are not helpful.

Tyler Dirden

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Ebay B20B imported from three different regions for under $800.
Change the ecu to a stock B16
Drive car, have fun.
May need the harness too. Not hard.

cfauvel

Thanks Tyler....cool.

the b20b, I imagine that is a 2L engine. Would any year fit in the car? Does the b20 come in vtec and non vtec models? And would it fit against the automatic trans that is there now?
confused on the ECU, why from a B16 and not from a B20? Does it matter if the ecu is from a vtec or non-vtec engine?

Tyler Dirden

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Any b series will bolt into ANY B series. Auto or manual, not a problem.
You can make it a vtec later but not one normally.
ECU is better if OBD1. B16 ECU will run fine and very common. I believe all B20 motors are OBD2, I could be wrong but the switch was around 1996.

I have this same swap in my 93 DelSol and running great for the last 100kmi.

ejv8s10

You should have a D series engine in your car now.
If so, then NO, the D series auto trans will not fit the B series engines.
You need to get a B series trans.

White_EG1

OP (original poster) since you have lack of knowledge in the honda culture, pretty sure you don't want to go b20 vtec, and just want a basic b20 to start your platform with, in that case the suggested Ecu of a b16, will not run that swap well. The b16 ecu is a vtec computer. The b20 is non vtec. OP you'll need a 96-00 p75 integra ls ecu that is the closest ecu to make that swap run good.

NotARaCist

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Are we seriously doing this blatant hand holding for an '04 right now? Really?

ejv8s10

I'm not an old pro here, and don't want to challenge the forums culture, but sometimes it is possible to be so uninformed that you don't know where to start. Hopefully the OP will have enough info from us to start his own search.

TomCat39

Some people like to be helpful regardless. Interestingly enough, they aren't being helpful for the OP's benefit as much as for themselves even though the OP benefits too.

Even though you may not receive any gratification of helping those less fortunate than you doesn't mean others can't enjoy such gratification.

NotARaCist

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Gotcha, so blatant hand-holding of someone who can't be bothered do to their own research gets threads locked, except this time. That makes sense.

TomCat39

Dunno, seems to be a transition going on as of late.

Can't say I know where it's headed.

Just pointing out that some people are different and enjoy helping regardless of the culture or status quo. And I was acknowledging you are not one of those people.

I too am waiting to see where this current trend is going and the end results of said trend. I will admit it's an interesting change in my opinion.

NotARaCist

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If this is the direction we want to go, we might as well delete the FAQ sticky, then. I mean, why bother giving a **** about the time and effort that people have put into them, if we're just going to disrespect it like that?

Here ya go OP, I'll hold your hand through your entire abortion of a post.

Is the exhaust smoke blue? If it is, then you're burning oil. If it isn't, then you're leaking it, and need to get under your car, clean the motor, and find the leak. I'm sorry I can't hold your hand through that remotely, but if you'd like to cover airfare...

click me.

Now click me.

It's called tuning, and yes, you would. This is 101 type ****.

Oh wow, look what Google found!

If you aren't competent enough to remove the engine, you aren't competent enough to overhaul it yourself, so I don't know why that thought even entered your mind. Hell, if you aren't competent enough to remove it, how exactly do you think you're going to swap it?

ejv8s10

Is it possible the forum is becoming too arrogant?
(I know and you don't--ha ha ha)?

Read again the OP. This guy knows almost nothing, and admits it.
I honestly believe he doesn't know what to put into the search engine.
Cut the non experienced guys a little slack, if you can.

HondaPartsHero

You never stated your budget but get a JDM D15B SOHC VTEC and transmission, get the auto P28 ECU and call it a day. The auto trans unless you're willing to swap to manual isn't worth any upgraded engine.