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Hi everyone, i just installed my itr front brakes on my civic, + 1" master cylinder.

after it was all done, the brakes peddle was REALLY SOFT, the only thing i can think of, was i messed up the bleeding sequence, and didint do it in the proper order.

do you guys think this is the problem??? should i retry the bleeding sequence in the correct order??

basically i did RR,RL,FR,FL... i dont want to try to do it all over, if that isnt the problem... i should just take it to the mechanic?

grumblemarc

iTrader: (4)

I think you answered your own question. Re-bleed or take it somewhere.

94eg!

iTrader: (2)

...or the MC you installed is bad.... or there's a leak somewhere...

Lugzilla

I did a brake swap on my civic a while back, I had to bleed the lines four times to get all the air out and have the pedal feeling right. Sometimes the air doesn't wanna come out all at once.

Slacker93eg

Does it have ABS? I've run into problems with the same symptoms as you, figured out that the ABS system wasn't bled. The easiest way to do that is drive it down an ally or somewhere you can easily lock up the brakes, drive and hit the brake hard, abs should kick in and wallah, better. You can bleed them 1 final time after that too

shawn_crx

When I did my conversion, I fill the MC to the top, unscrew all bleeder bolt, and let it drip away. Remember to catch the fluid with a cup and keep refilling the MC and don't let it go low. I let it drip for good 10 mins, tight all up, and did the final bleeding.

Doofus

You should always bench bleed a MC before installing into a car. There's probably still air in it. If you decide to bleed the brakes again, you should bleed the MC in the car before moving on to the calipers.

94EG8

Your bleeding order is wrong for a Honda, it criss crosses. RR FL LR FR is what you want.

delsolo95

thats weird, i always bled my brakes same as op and it work 100% of the time. just when bleeding a caliper i make sure it shoots a stream of a minimal four times and then move on to the next one.

delsolo95

i never really looked at the brake lines on the bottom of the car but i always thought your suppose to bleed starting from the furthest of the master cyl

shogee

Yes u are

delsolo95

pass rear, driver rear, pass front, driver front. thats how i do it but people are now doing RR FL LR FR. which is the correct one?

77777

i had mine do this after rear brakes. i tried everything and it was frustrating. in the end it was just air stuck waaaay in there somewhere. a lot of bleeding eventually fixed it.

shogee

I usually start from rr and work around each corner going clockwise, start from furthest away from master as u said, most manauls for most makes and models say to start from rear. In the end if u bleed it good and no bleeder valves are stuck then it should be good regardless of which way u want to bleed. But since u didnt bench bleed the master theres probably still air stuck in it. a trick u can try is to lightly tap the master while u crack the lines going into the master.

DamonFong

i dont think the bleed order matters enough to make it soft.. something might be wrong with the master cylinder

94eg!

iTrader: (2)

Honda's don't follow that old adage of furthest to closest. Each style of brake system is different. For instance, the latest ABS Hondas all go LF, RF, RR, LR. That's way away from the norm. This is because of how the ABS module distributes the fluid after the master cylinder.

The EG and EK civics all go RR, LF, LR, RF in a criss-cross pattern. That is because of the two independent fluid channels after the master cylinder. Each channel controls opposite corners. If you bleed in this order, it does make the fluid exchange furthest to closest WITHIN THE MASTER CYLINDER.

At least try bleeding again in the proper order...