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Old 01-19-2004, 11:48 AM
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I have a 1994 Civic EX with a JDM B16A2 swap.

The swap isn't new or anything and it has driven before. Just the other day out of the blue it wouldn't start. I've checked everything that I know to check. The car has fuel, it has spark, good battery, no fuses are blown, and I have gas. It turns over like normal but never starts. I'm totally stumped and really need to get my car running. Any help would be really appreciated. If anyone has something I could check speak up.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ej1civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a 1994 Civic EX with a JDM B16A2 swap.

The swap isn't new or anything and it has driven before. Just the other day out of the blue it wouldn't start. I've checked everything that I know to check. The car has fuel, it has spark, good battery, no fuses are blown, and I have gas. It turns over like normal but never starts. I'm totally stumped and really need to get my car running. Any help would be really appreciated. If anyone has something I could check speak up.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ok first state some facts.
USDM=b16a2
JDM=B16a

You just said you had a jdm b16a2....not making sense here

I would tap your main relay and see if that could be it also check your grounds.

How excatly do you know if you have fuel/spark?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by USDMDC2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Ok first state some facts.
USDM=b16a2
JDM=B16a

You just said you had a jdm b16a2....not making sense here

I would tap your main relay and see if that could be it also check your grounds.

How excatly do you know if you have fuel/spark?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have a JDM OBD1 B16 swap.

I know that I have fuel because I loosened the nut that goes to the rail a little and fuel shot out. Also, I can hear the fuel pump priming.

I know that I have spark because I took the wires off of the plug one at a time and tested for spark.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by USDMDC2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I would tap your main relay and see if that could be it also check your grounds.
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How do you do this?
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Anyone have a clue?
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In addition to seeing the fuel come out of the rail, did you listen for the fuel pump? There will always be some fuel in the lines, but if the pump isn't working it won't supply any more fuel to the engine and it won't start. So when you turn the car to the ON position you should hear a humming noise, if you don't check your fuel pump, if not I'm not sure what else it could be...

Edit: wow, reading to the end of the sentance owns me...



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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FrostySol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In addition to seeing the fuel come out of the rail, did you listen for the fuel pump? There will always be some fuel in the lines, but if the pump isn't working it won't suppy any more fuel to the engine and it won't start. So when you turn the car to the ON position you should hear a humming noise, if you don't check your fuel pump, if not I'm not sure what else it could be... </TD></TR></TABLE>

He already said above he heard it priming..... so its not the main relay.....

Make sure someone didn't dick with your plug wires... (order)
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maybe....

you have bad spark plugs, or maybe your injectors are ****** up.


replace the spark plugs and see if it helps. how long did you try to start it, or how many times? you could've flooded your engine with gas
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replace your plugs, same thing happened to me, i had spark going to the wires, but not from the plugs, the plugs were shot, new plugs, fired right up, go with ngk's bosch suck.
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same thing happened to me. it would turn on but wouldnt click over. my problem was the ecu.
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I replaced the plugs and it almost started but then it backfired! I took the distributor off and the shaft doesn't spin very freely and it squeeks a little. Also, I took the timing belt cover off and the belt looked pretty tight. After replacing the plugs and trying to start it the belt feels quite a bit looser. I'm pretty sure I have a timing issue. Do I need a new timing belt? Or distributor? Or BOTH!!!?
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My friends b16 in his 93dx does this sometimes. His check engine light comes on (i think) and it turns over but doesnt start. He just jiggles this plug on the lower left area of the valve cover. Unplug it and plug it back in.

Sorry i dont know nothing technical, im new to hondas, but i do know that the same thing happens to my friends car and he just does that and it starts
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Does it sound like I have a bad timing belt to anyone? Could it be the distributor?
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did u make sure the timing was correct and that it did not skip a tooth
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ej1civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Does it sound like I have a bad timing belt to anyone? Could it be the distributor?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Doesn't sound like a bad timing belt to me
Sounds like your distributor but before you go and buy one...borrow a friends and see if it works sounds like your ignitor is about to go out but you said you had spark...eeh goodluck
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by USDMDC2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Doesn't sound like a bad timing belt to me
Sounds like your distributor but before you go and buy one...borrow a friends and see if it works sounds like your ignitor is about to go out but you said you had spark...eeh goodluck</TD></TR></TABLE>

Is it not possible for the belt to be bad? I'm hoping it's not this but I have no clue at this point.
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Anyone know?
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It's almost 100% a bad distributor or distributor constituent. Oddly, you can get spark and fuel and cranking but have parts of your distributor be completely shot (i.e. the coil or the ignitor). I'll bet my testis on a new distributor curing the problem.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Archidictus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's almost 100% a bad distributor or distributor constituent. Oddly, you can get spark and fuel and cranking but have parts of your distributor be completely shot (i.e. the coil or the ignitor). I'll bet my testis on a new distributor curing the problem.</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is a relief. I hope it's the distributor. Does anyone know where to get a cheap distributor for an OBD1 JDM B16? What distributors will work with this motor?
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94-95 integra GSR dizzy is the same.
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Thanks man! Does anyone else have any clues? Sounds like the distributor needs to be replaced. Any input on the timing belt?
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i would say go to a junkyard, or if u got any friends that work at a shop, get them to look around. they run anywhere from 150-300. good luck
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you can also get a remanufactured one from like autozone and all those places. Some ppl don't like the whole remani thing, but I've never had problems, just get one with a warranty so if something goes wrong you can just take it back for a new one
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ej1civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Thanks man! Does anyone else have any clues? Sounds like the distributor needs to be replaced. Any input on the timing belt?</TD></TR></TABLE>

hell, your timing belt could have snapped. mine broke and we didnt figure out for a day, it would turn over and them we decided to pull off the valve cover.

oh yea you can use any 92+ B-vtec dizzy, but OBD2 ones need to be rewired but is VERY easy.
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same thing happened to me, my problem was i had carbon build up on the valve seals. What I did was go to start the car like normal, and while it kept cranking I held the gas pedal down until it finally started. You may flud your **** though (I did ) but then I just pulled the plugs , let the **** evaporate, then tried again and it worked.

btw since your in Wa, here's a number you can call to get advice on what to do, this is who I called: Donny at ISA 253-473-2606
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Thanks for all the help guys! I'm gonna try the number and see what he has to say.


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