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Has anyone ever bought this manual off of Ebay? (CD Version)

Old 11-19-2003, 12:01 PM
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Default Has anyone ever bought this manual off of Ebay? (CD Version)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...19993

they claim it's the helms manual for whatever model year your car is.
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Default Re: Has anyone ever bought this manual off of Ebay? (AzntaggeR)

You can get the digital for free (read copyright infringement) through links online. You paid for him to download it, burn it and mail it to you.

Get the real thing from http://www.helminc.com, worth its price.
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hes selling something that is illegal... all he did was download it and burn it to a cd - it's not too hard to come by either.
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somebody should send that e-bay link to helms. that is illegal.
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Default Re: Has anyone ever bought this manual off of Ebay? (kommon_sense)

ok, then all those manufacturers that we love so much (ie: rota, mugen 'style', type R 'style') on these boards should be reported too, because they are doing the exact same ****, but with a different product.

but thats besides the point. i just wanted to know if anyone has bought it, and there personal experiences.
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yeah, actually all those companys who make exact duplicates of another companies design are doing something kind of wrong.

BUT anyways, Do not support this guy!
I'm not one to speak up against anyone using free downloaded/pirated software/books, because I think its extremely helpful for people to LEARN, and as long as they're learning I think it's actually ok.

BUT I draw the line(and think others should too) when someone makes a profit off pirated stuff, thats just wrong and a huge insult

if anything, if you get somewhere good using a pirated product, you SHOULD purchase that product
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also using digital helms books is really a bit of a pain in the ***.

like a PDF file book,
all the info might be there, but its alot harder to find it, and alot more aggrivating to navigate through a PDF file than it is to read a book.

buy the actual book, you wont regret it, its well WELL WELL worth it!!
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Default Re: Has anyone ever bought this manual off of Ebay? (AzntaggeR)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AzntaggeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok, then all those manufacturers that we love so much (ie: rota, mugen 'style', type R 'style') on these boards should be reported too, because they are doing the exact same ****, but with a different product.[/b]</TD></TR></TABLE>

Completely different and not illegal. Besides, they are not peddling someone elses work.
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Default Re: Has anyone ever bought this manual off of Ebay? (AzntaggeR)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AzntaggeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok, then all those manufacturers that we love so much (ie: rota, mugen 'style', type R 'style') on these boards should be reported too, because they are doing the exact same ****, but with a different product.

but thats besides the point. i just wanted to know if anyone has bought it, and there personal experiences.</TD></TR></TABLE>]
Your statement is totally wrong.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
ok, then all those manufacturers that we love so much (ie: rota, mugen 'style', type R 'style') on these boards should be reported too, because they are doing the exact same ****, but with a different product.

but thats besides the point. i just wanted to know if anyone has bought it, and there personal experiences.
</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats what patents are for dumbass

those companies can legally and rightfully copy other companies products if the patent is expired or never existed

its called capitalism and competition and its good for the consumer otherwise everything would be grossly overpriced

and dont buy from this guy whose trying to profit off other peoples copyrighted works.
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Default Re: Has anyone ever bought this manual off of Ebay? (splitime)

How do I get to the free digital manuals? I cant find them
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">also using digital helms books is really a bit of a pain in the ***.

like a PDF file book,
all the info might be there, but its alot harder to find it, and alot more aggrivating to navigate through a PDF file than it is to read a book.

buy the actual book, you wont regret it, its well WELL WELL worth it!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'd much rather be able to alt-F (find) my way through a Helm's chapter than worry about ******* up the onion-skin pages with my greasy hands while I fruitlessly search in low-light under my car .
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I own the book, so I wouldn't feel bad downloading an extra copy to preserve that $50 thin paged thing. I've already gotten oil and dirt on some of the pages. But I'm not gonna pay some pirating jerk to do it for me.
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you cant search through it, its all scanned in and not in text form, its just compressed images in pdf form.
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ohh well, what's done is done.
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