hermtm2

Hi.

I've got a hard starting problem when the gas is low. The engine is stared but I have to keep to turn the ignition key for 3~5 seconds or turning twice. However when the gas is over the 1/3, it starts normally. I put the fuel injector cleaners about 3 times but that dosen't too. What's going on the engine?

Thanks.

Unseen Racer

check your fuel pump and fuel filter.

98civdx

yea my dx does it to.
if i put the key in poition 2 and let it sit for a couple seconds after it stops beeping i can normally start it on first try, but sometimes it takes 2 trys.

95civic24

it might be the fuel pump with it being that low it works harder

boosted28

fuel pump is the answer.

trustdestruction

my old civic did this and i replaced the fuel filter and it went away.
it very well could be the fuel pump but it's best to try the fuel filter first since it's like $15.

green99civic

I would check your fuel delivery sounds like you need to get a new fuel filter or fuel pump.

hermtm2

It sounds like fuel filter and pump issues.

Thanks guys.

teamworxek9

iTrader: (5)

start with you fuel filter and work your way back, most likely its your filter. it gets clogged and when you turn the pump on (prime it) you stirr up salredy in the filter and the fuel from the tank is bringing up more sediment.

hermtm2

I think it is time to replace the filter. My civic has 136k on it.

Should I buy the OEM filter which is $33? Or $20 at the Autozone.

Thanks.

teamworxek9

iTrader: (5)

when ever you can use oem.

hermtm2

Is it good idea to put Seaform into fuel tank before the old filter is placed? I think the inside of tank should be cleaned up anyhow.

Thanks.

Former User

I'm not sure if this is the same problem you are having, but you might want to read this thread from another Civic forum.

denso

lol, of course it hard to start when fuel is low, that why you keep it full, or half way,

hermtm2

That is why "you" keep it full or half way not me.

Thanks.

trustdestruction

if you have gas, the car should start no problem.
your statement isn't a solution to the problem, it's a way around the problem.

hermtm2

I replaced the fuel filter and then tested for 1 month. It still has problem. Is it time to replace the pump now?

TravisCadello

the pump or on the pump theirs a screen. replace the screen.

biggjerryc

This is a pretty well know civic/integra problem. Saw it all the time when i was still a mechanic. sometimes the fuel filter will do it but if i remember correctly... what it really is.. your gas tank is normally higher then your fuel lines... so when the gas is low there is less gravity therefore... when you shut your car off... the is no gravity to keep the fuel in its place in the fuel lines so the pump has to bring it all the way back up the motor after sitting for periods of time. its kinda like in drag racing.. some people put their gas cells in the trunk mainly so their car starts right away and it makes for a more efficient fuel delivery.


edit
you said you have an evap leak.... that means your fuel system is leaking somewhere. well im sure youve put a straw in water and pull it out of the cup with your finger on the end. thats kinda like the fuel system in a way. if you have a leak (aka taking your finger off the straw) the fuel will go with gravity therefore... it goes down since your gas tank is lover then your fuel rail

hermtm2

Do you think it is a leaking problem? I don't know but I haven't seen any leak sign on the floor of my garage. How can I find the leak? Should I go to the shop?

Thanks.

biggjerryc

no, not a fuel leak. its an evap leak. your fuel system really shouldnt have much air in it. but somewhere your system is taking in air. alot of times its a gas cap. youd be surprised how many people think they have a huge problem when its really their gas cap has worn out. other then that there are evap lines that run to the front of your car and into the manifold or other places. can remember exact. maybe someone can chime in and tell where they go... then you can look for cracked or dryrotted evap lines as well

hermtm2

Thanks a lot.

biggjerryc

no problem. im not one to flame and give a hard time. i see your new to the forum so... to protect you from people that like to give a hard time.... search the forums a little more because i know this subject has been covered many times. if you find the problem let us know so people in the future can find the cure

hermtm2

Don't you think the pump is bad? Right?