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JDM H22 Type S in 97 civic.... is it worth it?

(puma)

it can be, but you can kiss your handling goodbye, a guy i know around here had a h22 type s, in a ek hatch, it was very quick,also very loud, but his car had no handling what so ever, he said he'd been through 3 axle replacements already.

H22AS

how fast does it run?

(puma)

he didnt run at the track,but he took me for a ride.it's very quick, but he just doesnt have any handling. he said he runs through, cobra's and camro's with ease.it's gonna be alot of work though, your gonna have to weld in a mount or two if im not mistaken.

rollercosta123

get the hasport motor mount kit and you dont have to weld anything. itll cost you around 600 for them but its ceaper and better than welding. H22 is fast but its sad when a car same as yours beats the **** out of you with a gsr cause they are lighter. i have seen it happen before. stock gsr in eg and ek. the thing i like about h22 is the horsepower and torque,and they are cheap compare to the b18c's

NerveAgent

It'll run you about the same amount if you would just get a b18c5.

Chez'sExCoupe

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rollercosta123 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">get the hasport motor mount kit and you dont have to weld anything. itll cost you around 600 for them but its ceaper and better than welding. H22 is fast but its sad when a car same as yours beats the **** out of you with a gsr cause they are lighter. i have seen it happen before. stock gsr in eg and ek. the thing i like about h22 is the horsepower and torque,and they are cheap compare to the b18c's</TD></TR></TABLE>

H22 is not THAT much heavier then a gsr

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=684550

I've heard that it sits higher though and having the centre of gravity at a higher point is what ruins the handling, not the weight itself...
Anyone have a definite answer?

Root Beer

i read that and h22, in all, is 35 lbs heavier than a gsr. I'm new to hondas(vr6 yo), but i'm pretty sure that's not a HUGE weight factor in terms of effecting handling and straight line performance too much.

edit:ah beat me to it^^

PDM

Theres no truth to all these stupid rumours.

"oh its heavier, your car is going to handle like ****" "straight lines blah blah blah"

The difference is so minimal that if you had a carbon fibre hood and took a **** you'd be lighter than a b-series. Its all total bullshit. If so why arent guys running turbo's having "weight distribution" problems. Why arent you guys with CAI, bars running across your engine bay and other nonsense having weight distribution problems? you think all that stuff wouldnt add up to 30 pounds? Oh no straight line driving here we go..

Its all crap made up by bseries ******

Is there weight distribution problems when running a bseries instead of a sohc?

Root Beer

good thoughts

DxTrix

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PDM &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Theres no truth to all these stupid rumours.

"oh its heavier, your car is going to handle like ****" "straight lines blah blah blah"

The difference is so minimal that if you had a carbon fibre hood and took a **** you'd be lighter than a b-series. Its all total bullshit. If so why arent guys running turbo's having "weight distribution" problems. Why arent you guys with CAI, bars running across your engine bay and other nonsense having weight distribution problems? you think all that stuff wouldnt add up to 30 pounds? Oh no straight line driving here we go..

Its all crap made up by bseries ******

Is there weight distribution problems when running a bseries instead of a sohc?
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finally some one who really knows soemthing
Half the people on here have only herd h22s this and h22 that and they just repeat what the herd..... this coming from a guy owned a ek with a h22 and only problem I had was stopping but nothing a rear disc setup cant fix

showbiz

No its not worth it. The jdm type s has ATTS diff mounted on the block. Do a search.

macDelli

any h-series motor in a civic would be pleasing to feel id say go for it just get ready for engine bay and other modification

(puma)

yeh definately dude, i can tell you your going to be kicking out some money doing an h22 swap definately, dont get me wrong they are very quick and the torque is very nice,they pull very hard, as far as the weight, it is a huge motor and will definately add a few lbs. not sure about a comparison though. but the guy i know that did do this swap was pleased, and actually another friend of mine,darnell had an h22 in an eg a while back, all motor, he said after a while he just got tired of it, handling issues, he sold it to a guy in town and the guy blew the motor,the car went to ****, after he sold it.
personally i'd just go for something smaller,b18c5,or c1,but do you might want to do a little more research on the h22 first.im currently building a b16a2 for my eg.

rollercosta123

i truthfully have nothing agaianst a h22 but where can i get info about them.

Import_Dumbass

i dont either, and when he blew that h22 was it the driver? also i heard if you miss an oil change on an h22 its like the kiss of death? any truth behind that, theres a few guys here that seem really knowledgebale on them, and a mechanic told me that so im just curious.

kaoss_11

Go big or go home. I say get the h series. You have to get used to the feeling of a h series, its a little different than a b series but you get so much tq and hp as an extra. You cant compare a gsr or hype r to a h22. They getted killed all day. I am pro h22.

92'si

where do you guys get off saying its more or as much as gsr? h22 is cheaper, i can get one for 3k installed dyno tuned etc... and the integ type-r swap is a little more than 5k with same tuned and blah blah... only thing about h22 is parts are not as easy to find.. alot of stuff will need to be ordered.

NXLude

go here: https://honda-tech.com/zeroforum?id=18

then here and here: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=650329
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=650230

(puma)

yeh it was the driver,that hatch was one of the cleanest ones in town at that time,was very quick. they require maintenance regularly, but if your really interested i could get you some info on h22's, and if your looking to buy one i'm pretty sure i could find you one, right now i know where one is but unfortunately it's not a type s. just pm me, i have a couple local friends(also on ht) that are very knowlegeable on h22's.

ROK801

this thread has everything there is to know about the h22 into an EG and it pretty much goes on to explain the EK later in the thread...

https://honda-tech.com/zero...age=1

rollercosta123

thanks

rollercosta123

only.....if i was human....

IHateJDM

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I don't see why it would be any different than any other motor.

JDM-97CX

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B_Series &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it can be, but you can kiss your handling goodbye, a guy i know around here had a h22 type s, in a ek hatch, it was very quick,also very loud, but his car had no handling what so ever, he said he'd been through 3 axle replacements already.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Don't start this debate again, it was allready proved several times that the H22 is not going to kill your handling. Shut the **** up.