ghostss

First off, not a hater. Yeah, I'm a domestic, but I respect those that mod their cars and get results, import or domestic.

I don't know about your cars, but with mine, realistically, I can expect about 40 HP from intake/exhaust/headers and PCM (computer) programming. I've had a dialogue with some guy who is telling me this about his 1999 Civic Si (?) with a VTEC:

"dude i know my 0-60 is off, i just gussed(its proly like 6.3) but i am running 210 hp. thats for sure. i had it dynoed.i will list my mods........aem cold air intake,saleen computer chip,greddy exuast,and greddy headers. it had 160 hp stock then i put every thing on it in about two weeks and had it dynoed. so there is the truth!!!!!! happy now. i am not lyeing about the 210 hp!!"

I just want to know what the deal is. He originally said he had a turbo, now he doesn't. First it was 300+ HP, now it's 210 after I urged him to come clean. He said he did, but I don't know. Saleen chip for a Honda? WTF?

The VTEC is an excellent engine, no doubt. Variable timing is the future for cars, IMO, and Honda was in on it first. But how much can an intake and exhaust add? What about headers? Chip?

If someone could point me to a good info source so I can arm myself against liars, I'd appreciate it. I already know a domestic liar when I hear one, I have that angle covered.

Thanks.

Eric

Monarch

hey u get a just for spelling VTEC right!

CivicExPimp

From my experience he would be lucky to hit 190 Hp to the wheels with that set-up...what do you guys think?

slowEJ6

doubt its even close to 190hp to the wheels.

sparkz

saleen computer chip? fora civic? WOW!! (sarcasm) with all those mods listed, i would think hed be lucky to even get around 165 to the wheels.

ghostss

What is your accepted drivetrain loss percentage? Ours is about 17% for the GM 4L60E (auto).

Eric

CivicExPimp

Sowwie I meant to say 190 to the crank!!!!

dirtySOHC's

he is really BS'in. 210hp with bolt-ons and a so called saleen chip......please.

as stated earlier he is lucky to get 165 to the wheels..........

ghostss

I appreciate the quick replies guys (and girl).

BTW, here's his car (if it indeed is):





And his engine:



His claims:

Vehicle Info
Make: Honda
Model: Civic
Year: 1999
Nickname: civic si
Car Setup: race
Sound System Setup: stock

0-60: 5.9 s
Est. Horsepower: 210

Performance Modifications
Brake Upgrades: Brembo
Exhaust: Greddy
Header: Greddy
Intake: AEM
Performance Chip: Saleen

Krow

Welcome to the board, as for this guy he is bs'ing you, there is no way he is making that much power with those mods.

dom93hatch

That's a Civic Si alright. But 210hp with bolt-ons is quite impossible...even with a "Saleen" chip...lol

I have come up with a term called "Dimport", or "Domestice Import."

Welcome to the board though. Props for the VTEC spelling! Not many can get that right the first time.

Frosty_spl

what a homo. That guy might be pushing 165 on a good day. Saleen chip, tell him to go shoot himself in the face for lying to you, thats just rediculous.

but Y0, its tha altzzA taillights that push him over the 200 hp mark y0! 5.9 sec 0-60 are you kidding? that guys a tool

madtownhonda

saleen chip

BagelW

Saleen computer chip??? LOL

Does anyone make a "chip" for a Civic Si?

stocker

There is no way he's making 210 to the wheels. He is more likely making somewhere close to 165. You never no though, I'd say the aftermarket radiator hose alone is worth 20 horsepower
Welcome to the board

Kamin

you get props for not hating on us "ricers"
that kid is a freaking moron
his car will never see 200whp. not with those mods
saleen dosent even make a chip for a honda.
our drivetrain loss is about 5-15% (depends on a bunch of crap. its a honda not a performace car)
judging by the pics of his car he is a RICER and has no idea what he is talking about.
just slap him upside the head and say "you are the reason people who KNOW what there talking about and drive a honda are called ricers anyway"

here,
http://www.howstuffworks.com/question229.htm
just trying to educate my domestic brothers (what is vtec and how it works)


[Modified by KAMiN, 10:50 PM 5/9/2002]

Mike_C

damn you! I was gonna say that!

str8edgexx

yeah..he's got those altezzas and the stickers....thats gotta account for that extra 30 hp to the wheels that he's talking about

ghostss

LOL, thanks for the warm welcome, I appreciate that, as well as the input and info.

No, I'm not a hater, I actually enjoy talking to "the other side," maybe I can learn something about how you guys make power and apply it to my platform. An engine is an engine, they all make power the same way, air, fuel, spark.

BTW, if you are interested in seeing my big, fat car, go here:

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ghostss/car.html

Again, thanks for the info and welcome.

Eric

8400 rpm

CR-V

i have a damn blue car myself.. but i duno about u people.. but what i notice is.. everyone with a si.. esepcially the blue ones.. damn.. they think their car is the fastest thing alive.. i saw one try to race a m3(2002).. its hirlarious.. but dude.. 210 horses from bolt on? thats a lot coming from a si.. no way jose.. hhahhaa that guy is another one of them guys who has a head bigger than his car cuz its blue and has vtec... lol

UnknownAce

unless those pics are old, that's not a AEM Cold Air Intake there.. it's only a DC sports DAC intake...

The UnknownAce

Schmedley

To me it also looks to be a DC Sports header as well !

poison

ahh, he's got altezza's, sounds like another riceboy pushin the numbers up to sound cool

CivicSiRacer

No no he's prolly pushing more than 210hp. Those Altezzas and 'Velocity' sticker give you an extra 50hp. And the purple fuel pressure riser, and blue painted power steering fluid cap, radiator hose caps, and oil dipstick is another 10hp, but the the stainless steel braided lines are another 10hp.