Notices
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

Grounding kit DYI (question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-07-2003, 05:41 PM
  #1  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
Stryker908's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: St. Paul, MN, USA
Posts: 1,270
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Grounding kit DYI (question

Hey guys I was planing on building a grounding kit for my car, I went to Lowes today and got some 4 gauge copper wire ... but when I got back here I noticed most people are using what looks like speaker wire. It looks braided .. Mine is about 13 strands of thick copper will this still work ?

here is a pic sorry its burry my camera is only 2.0 MP

Old 06-07-2003, 06:08 PM
  #2  
Honda-Tech Member
 
NonovUrbizniz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 3,840
Received 71 Likes on 52 Posts
Default Re: Grounding kit DYI (question (Stryker908)

I'd get stereo ground wire... like good stuff though.. monster cable or the like.

That stuff looks like home grade which is for MUCH higher voltage so it needs to be thick stranded to prevent fires... low voltage runs better through thin stranded good quality copper wire.
Old 06-07-2003, 06:18 PM
  #3  
 
bryan305's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Colorado Springs, co
Posts: 1,672
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Grounding kit DYI (NonovUrbizniz)

The whole purpose of the grounding kit is to reduce the resistance that the current has to flow through to get back to the battery. Hook up an ahmmeter to that wire, you'll get 0 ohms. It'll work just fine for your car. It probably won't be as flexible, though and might fail from fatigue.
Old 06-07-2003, 06:32 PM
  #4  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
Stryker908's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: St. Paul, MN, USA
Posts: 1,270
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Grounding kit DYI (bryan305)

YAY ... 0hms
Old 06-07-2003, 07:01 PM
  #5  
 
EBP_SI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Toronto, On, Canada
Posts: 1,652
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

putting a connector on the end may not be a fun job though.

You'll see solid wires used a lot in new home construction becuase it is cheaper to buy and you can bend it around corners and it will retain its shape.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
That stuff looks like home grade which is for MUCH higher voltage so it needs to be thick stranded to prevent fires... low voltage runs better through thin stranded good quality copper wire. </TD></TR></TABLE>

higher voltage, yes, but home wire really only has to carry 120v though the wire must be rated to carry 600v. This is also talking about 12awg. The size of the wire only determines the maximum current it can carry.

I fail to see how thick strands would help prevent fires. I think that has more to do with the insulation which on that wire seems to be very thin. I'd look into getting some stereo grounding wire because the insulation is much thicker on those and it designed to be used in the engine bay.
Old 06-07-2003, 08:33 PM
  #6  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
Stryker908's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: St. Paul, MN, USA
Posts: 1,270
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (EBP_SI)

yeah its 600V....
Old 06-07-2003, 08:37 PM
  #7  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Chris y0!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: 805, socal, USA
Posts: 2,997
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (Stryker908)

whats wrong with the stock grounds?
Old 06-07-2003, 08:51 PM
  #8  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Foozball26's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Dallas, Tx, USA
Posts: 1,860
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (Chris y0!)

they aren't as thick and some are only like 16 guage wire that runs through the wiring harness

plus its bling bling to use colored wires

I made my own with gold terminals from radio shack and 8 guage wire from a stereo shop and noticed the car starts up way faster.
Old 06-08-2003, 08:13 AM
  #9  
Honda-Tech Member
 
NonovUrbizniz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 3,840
Received 71 Likes on 52 Posts
Default Re: (EBP_SI)

because the thinner the strands the hotter it runs... if you run HIGH voltage through thin stranded wire it BURNS... the home grade wire is rated to 600v so that incase of an over load it doesn't BURN... which wire does when it runs higher voltage than it should.

If you run too high AMPERAGE through thin guage wire it burns because it can't contain the energy. Now imagine running 120v instead of 12v through some stereo wire...

Lots of thin strands are better for flow of low energy electricity thick strands are better for high volume of high energy...

I never said it won't work but it in CERTAINLY not the best wire to use. wire is wire... you could TECHNICALLY use that as you're spark plug wire... Are you going to?
Old 06-08-2003, 09:03 AM
  #10  
 
euclid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: C.O.M.A.
Posts: 3,954
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (NonovUrbizniz)

i was thinking about 8 gauge speaker cable, my stock grounds are rusted and splitting apart.
Old 06-09-2003, 11:43 AM
  #11  
Honda-Tech Member
 
NonovUrbizniz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 3,840
Received 71 Likes on 52 Posts
Default Re: (euclid)

yeah like I said I used 8guage black ground wire from a stereo shop... it smoothed out my idle a little but nothing dramatic... no lights not dimming but I also didn't mock a kit I just re-did my head ground... then I found that my tranny and battery ground are much thicker guage so I left them for now till I get some 4guage audio ground wire.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
vilaskhare
Audio / Security / Video
0
08-27-2018 05:56 AM
HT Chaplain
Welding / Fabrication
3
08-01-2007 12:35 PM
dmxsoulja3
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
15
12-08-2004 09:45 AM
lmiguelvv
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
1
07-30-2004 12:18 PM
joeski
Tech / Misc
1
04-10-2003 12:58 PM



Quick Reply: Grounding kit DYI (question



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:33 AM.