blackcivic11

Alright so i picked up my B16A last night and we finally got it out of my brothers golf and inside. I'm very happy with the purchase; however, i'm a little bit confused...

I was trying to pin point how to find out what year the engine was from and also what generation. Aparently there are two different types of valve covers that came from the b16a first gen and the b16a second gen.

Mine has the valve cover design that the second generations have.

Now heres the wierd part.. I was told that the year of the block was written in the circles above the exhaust manifold and there are four.

Please try and help me determine the year of my engine :bigup:cause im confused









thanks guys any guesses are welcome :bigup:

EDIT: IT ALSO HAD AN OBD2 ECU ON IT....


Modified by blackcivic11 at 7:55 AM 4/12/2008

EJ8chu

iTrader: (2)

Looks like a 9/1 on the left. If so it was assembled in 91 and is probably out of a 92

blackcivic11

but it had an OBD2 ecu on it....???

jdmhatch1

what ecu came with it?

blackcivic11

ok now im freaking out does this thing have a hydro tranny? how do I know?

gourley

Yes thats a hydro tranny. See the opening on front of the trans with the rubber boot and a metal shifting for sticking out and two bolt holes next to it. Thats how how you tell if its hydro or not.

It's a OBD1 motor. How are you so sure you have a obd2 ecu. What is the code on the ecu (IE: PR3,P30,PTP)

blackcivic11

it says P30-c02

gourley

I'm pretty sure P30's are OBD1

blackcivic11

ha ya it is, just found this. the guy i bought it from said it was an OBD2 ecu.
http://hondaswap.com/reference...29129/

BryanM.

iTrader: (1)

Your motor was made in '91 for the '92 production year, it's all good

<-- Mine too was made in (9|1) (0|6). It's got the P30 ECU and Y21 hydro tranny.

Ej Girl

Looks like my OBD1 JDM B16 motor and P30's are obd1, I have a P30 for my car.

blackcivic11

i've heard people say thatyou shouldn't put an engine older than the age of your car itself... whats with that? its going into my 96 EK good choice? also where do you find the tranny code on the transmission?

austinkli

they say don't do it because it's illegal in all 50 states. now if your state doesn't hvae emmissions tests, well i doubt a cop is going to pull you over and say, "son pop your hood, this is just a routine check to make sure your engine is not older than your car, oh wait, you have a 96 with a 92 b16 in it, i'm takin you in." but nevertheless, if your state does have emmissions tests, you won't pass with an older engine.

blackcivic11

i live in quebec, canada we dont have emissions test lol but they're cracking down on stupid **** over here: no reflectors in head lights, too low and rubbing, illegal exhaust if its not OEM.... its getting really bad over here.

gourley

If your laws are that bad then a cop will get you for the motor.

blackcivic11

it hasn't gotten there yet and i highly doubt it will

so you guys sure its a B16a SIR2 JDM so if i start ordering parts i should go for 92 b16a parts?


Modified by blackcivic11 at 1:01 PM 4/12/2008

austinkli

i'd do it if i lived there. it's not illegal and i'm really not sure why it is here.

914b16

they do this in yonkers lolzzz

gourley

You have a JDM OBD1 SiR B16A.

Most parts from a USDM 99-00 Si OBD2b B16A2 will fit, unless you can source out parts for a JDM B16A.

Goodluck

Ej Girl

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blackcivic11 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it hasn't gotten there yet and i highly doubt it will

so you guys sure its a B16a SIR2 JDM so if i start ordering parts i should go for 92 b16a parts?


Modified by blackcivic11 at 12:19 PM 4/12/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>

Alot of b series parts are interchangable so you dont have to search for just your motor, but the more in depth you get inside your motor I would play it safe and get parts for your car.

blackcivic11

so can we determine which generation this is?

philosofy1

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gourley &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You have a JDM OBD1 SiR B16A.

Most parts from a USDM 99-00 Si OBD2b B16A2 will fit, unless you can source out parts for a JDM B16A.

Goodluck</TD></TR></TABLE>

actually, this is incorrect.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blackcivic11 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so can we determine which generation this is?</TD></TR></TABLE>

from the looks of it, your motor is out of a 92-95 jdm civic. everything on your motor is identical to the 94-95 usdm (b16) del sol. well, not quite everything.
the only difference is the alternator, cam, and i think pistons. with the exception of the alternator you have nothing to worry about.

though the Si motor is a b16, it uses a different A/C compressor and bracket, water pump (the teeth on the gear is different), timing belt. the 94-95 del sol is the one you want to order parts from, it is also obd1, oppose to the 99-00 civic si and the 96-97 del sol.

blackcivic11

from the looks of the pictures of my engine that i posted or just assuming its out of a 92-95 civic? I have people telling me its a 1st generation because it says (9/1)... what else can i look for excluding the valve cover design?

Ice78transam

Yo man. its from a 1992 JDM civic SIR I. Hydro tranny, OBD1. Valve cover is a terrible indicator of year. they are switched and swapped all the time... best indicator is block stampings. and hell if it runs who cares!

philosofy1

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blackcivic11 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">from the looks of the pictures of my engine that i posted or just assuming its out of a 92-95 civic? I have people telling me its a 1st generation because it says (9/1)... what else can i look for excluding the valve cover design?</TD></TR></TABLE>

you have a 92 motor, according to the head stampings.