going to be buying a turbo, but need a little help deciding.
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going to be buying a turbo, but need a little help deciding.
ok i know everything im going to need. but for the actual turbo itself, i have no idea what to get. here are a couple stipulations...
its going to be a daily driver
i want it to be boost fast, as low rpm as possible, (so i belive a smaller turbo would be what im looking for)
and i dont need like 300HP or anything. i want to break 200 hp, and if possible 200 Tq. i have a stock d16, 97 ex civic.
yes i understand that i will need new internals, but thats not the point.
so any help is welcome any input. if there are any id like a turbo that could spool by about 1500-3000.
its going to be a daily driver
i want it to be boost fast, as low rpm as possible, (so i belive a smaller turbo would be what im looking for)
and i dont need like 300HP or anything. i want to break 200 hp, and if possible 200 Tq. i have a stock d16, 97 ex civic.
yes i understand that i will need new internals, but thats not the point.
so any help is welcome any input. if there are any id like a turbo that could spool by about 1500-3000.
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Re: going to be buying a turbo, but need a little help deciding.
alright to start off you dont need to mess with your internals, if its a low milage d16 id leave it alone. start off by doing a compression test, if the #s are even throught out the block than your good. if you dont want more than 250whp id suggest buying ebay piping because those kits are alright for no more than 300hp (from my experience + low budget). than invest into a gt25-28 ballbearing, fast spooling turbo from garrett. id suggest buying a complete kit from Apexi ballbearing IHI turbo kit, them things are amazing, fast spooling, and good for your setup. you will defenitely need to invest into a good engine management, some dsm 450's will be good, walbro fuel pump. if you know your basics on a turbo build, read alot on forced induction for your use only because its going to help you down the road. i hope this help, its just my .02
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Re: going to be buying a turbo, but need a little help deciding.
This is my next build! i have a D16 at the shop that I'm build for boost. but i didn't know it will be good on stock internals. hmm.
Either way my z6 needs new rings and crankshaft due to a stripped crank pulley bolt lol.
Either way my z6 needs new rings and crankshaft due to a stripped crank pulley bolt lol.
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you need a nice small T3/T04E turbo. nothing above a .54 trim.
relatively cheap and easy to find, great spool up and good numbers.
relatively cheap and easy to find, great spool up and good numbers.
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a stock d16 u dont need internals...but low mileage or not on a stock d16 ....dont run more than 9 PSI if its a stick or more than 6 its an auto..reason for lower on auto cuz if u boost higher ur RPM's are gonna be flying through the gears n the auto trans will be behind in shift points and its gonna be hittin rev limiter all day.
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but if u want more than 10 psi ...yes ur gonna need internals and injectors/a walbro and probably gonna want a turbo timer
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a stock d16 u dont need internals...but low mileage or not on a stock d16 ....dont run more than 9 PSI if its a stick or more than 6 its an auto..reason for lower on auto cuz if u boost higher ur RPM's are gonna be flying through the gears n the auto trans will be behind in shift points and its gonna be hittin rev limiter all day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fQS6JXm2Jc
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cuz....no the d16 is very weak for boost any more than 9 on a d16 with stock internals will blow it ....no matter how u shift the second u hit the spooling point of the turbo even if u shift at that time...wtf good is the turbo then
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any motor can handle boost it just is a matter of how much...stock d16. no more than 9 psi on any type of trans end of story : )
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Re: going to be buying a turbo, but need a little help deciding.
the tranny should be ok for a little highier and the clutch will of corse need to be replaced with something that can handle the higher power.
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And I always thought that the correct measure for how much an engine can handle was in Horsepower, and not in psi since psi in different turbines cause different results.
I've always read here that stock D can do 200-220 whp with a great tune.
I've always read here that stock D can do 200-220 whp with a great tune.
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thats true but the 8 psi that u get + your basic upgrades for it. fuel pump/injectors tune , cold air and an headeer back full exhaust will get u 200. but why would it matter how much HP it has to handle boost
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What I meant was the use of HP as stress measurement, since the same PSI could yield different HP results when using different turbines.
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Re: going to be buying a turbo, but need a little help deciding.
Don't listen to most of what was said in this thread. PSI does not really matter. A good condition D with a good tune can take 200 no problem, up to probably 250 whp max reliably. Find a small turbo that is capable of your power goals and you should be good, you could spend $100 on a stock tubo off of something, or $1000 on a GT series, up to you on how much you want to spend.
Basically, quit reading this thread after post #5 because they don't know what they are talking about.
Basically, quit reading this thread after post #5 because they don't know what they are talking about.
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Re: going to be buying a turbo, but need a little help deciding.
Again, it doesn’t matter how much boost it take, hp is what matters to what the engine can take.
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Re: going to be buying a turbo, but need a little help deciding.
You're getting quite a bit of bad info here....you need to post this in the Forced Induction forum. The Civic and Integra forums are notorious for mixed information. Since you're new to boost, it may be confusing or send you in the wrong direction. Go to FI
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