99fbpem1

On a b16 how much hp increase could you get with a type R head? 10? I'm sure someone has done this

doood

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just slapping it on, probably not much
tuned, 10whp maybe

unless you're getting a real itr head for dead cheap i wouldnt even bother

Libertariat

Money better spent in saving up for your turbo.

You picked a **** poor block if you have any n/a goals.

99fbpem1

I am well aware that you hate the b16 ek guy. I was wondering how long it would take you to post about the horrible b16

Libertariat

I like the b16. I just think that as an n/a platform it's terrible.

Theb16 has plenty of potential, but for anyone building an n/a project they're shooting themselves in the foot by having 1.6L

I don't bash the b16, I bash people who make small displacement n/a cars.

doood

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't bash the b16, I bash people who make small displacement n/a cars.</TD></TR></TABLE>

then bash the entire honda community why dont ya?

Libertariat

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by doood &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">then bash the entire honda community why dont ya? </TD></TR></TABLE>

If there were a smiley with a serious stare I'd post it.

You know what I mean.

doood

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5_Lug_B

Hey the B16 N/A could be pretty decent. I had mine in low 14's fully bolted with some Skunk2 Cams

StylishDOHC

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 5_Lug_B &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey the B16 N/A could be pretty decent. I had mine in low 14's fully bolted with some Skunk2 Cams </TD></TR></TABLE>

Is that good?

Libertariat

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by StylishDOHC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Is that good?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Compared to what?

no, not really.

94c1v1cex

i'm gonna go ahead and say it... torqueless wonder

CivicSiRX

i wouldnt say terrible but it has its potential. it all depends what the goal of the car is. i seen several built n/a b16a's egs at my local track running hpde events dominating those with more power. for road racing its not that bad, as long as the rpms stay high. for drag racing, i would definetly go with another motor then the b16a.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I like the b16. I just think that as an n/a platform it's terrible.

Theb16 has plenty of potential, but for anyone building an n/a project they're shooting themselves in the foot by having 1.6L

I don't bash the b16, I bash people who make small displacement n/a cars.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Libertariat

^^

HPD's are way more about suspension, gearing, and driver than power.

I used to place in the middle rankings at PIR road racing events, and my car is bone stock.

SkoundrelUSA

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95civicdx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">On a b16 how much hp increase could you get with a type R head? 10? I'm sure someone has done this</TD></TR></TABLE>

Really dumb move. Just get ITR cams if anything

andoxviii

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b16's are pointless all around. If you are leaving it n/a then it has little power and no torque. If you are boosting it, you may solve the power/torque issue...but if that's the case, why not boost a b18c1 and get even better numbers?

as far as stock honda motors go... b18 &gt; all

H22 is nice, but b-series has far better after-market support.

Libertariat

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by andoxviii &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
H22 is nice, but b-series has far better after-market support.</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is somewhat true, then you have to consider "How fast does my car really need to be?"

Most h22 guys run 13's out of the box. With good cams, i/e/h you can get mid-high 12's. That's all without forced induction. The h's have strong sleeves, the ringland problem is the only thing that really needs to be rectified for a solid boost setup.

andoxviii

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Well, yeah...for n/a, H22 or b18c5 is best.

But with all this boost talk I am hearing, you really are better off with a b18c1

VTcivicHB

From what I know though about boosted h22's is that they're quite finiky to tune and not to mention they're a bit heavier than b series.

Libertariat

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VTcivicHB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">From what I know though about boosted h22's is that they're quite finiky to tune and not to mention they're a bit heavier than b series. </TD></TR></TABLE>

20lbs?

andoxviii

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I really don't understand what it is with people who always talk about the H22 being so much heavier than a b18.

"Yeah but if you put an H twenty two in your civic it will be so much heavier and won't be a nice driving car anymore. And then you need to upgrade your suspension and still won't he as good on autocross."

It is only a few pounds more, big deal. Wear thinner socks and take off your shirt then if a few pounds is such a big deal.

Join Jenny Craig, or some ****.

VTcivicHB

&lt;---- D series guy ..... my bad

andoxviii

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haha sorry, I'm not trying to rip on you or anything. It is a common misconception.