9tailsfox

hello 2012 and everyone here. Ok simple question. what is the difference strut bar bolt on the suspension and on the chassis? They both work the same? I'm curios because a friend of my both front strut bar in his EK9. one is oem type r on the chassis and the other one is Cusco front strut bar on the suspension. Well both front strut bar were bolt fine here... I just wonder is it both front strut have their own benefits? Because I just bolt on the oem type r in my jdm eg9 last week. If i add another cusco strut on my suspension will be better?

Maybe my question is not so clear...
these are the sample picture I uploaded.... please imagine that both strut bar bolt on you car... and this is what I mean. You see one is on chassis and another one is suspension... and this is what I mean and I saw my friend both 2 strut bar like the picture below in his car... so any benefit between them? thank you

LoLoCivic

iTrader: (1)

the type R one is better because it dont flex while the 2nd flexes on the hinges where it bends. Cusco 4 point struf bar is better

grumblemarc

iTrader: (4)

They both suck because of the the 2 pictured, they both flex. You need a solid bar if you're going to notice anything. And a 3 point bar is better than a 2 point.

RT_NEWYORK

type r **** looks bad ***

9tailsfox

3 way strut is more to aggressive on track circuit. If for street would be 2 way right?

grumblemarc

iTrader: (4)

What? Are you making this stuff up?

9tailsfox

I don't know it much. other wise why honda never made a 3 way for type R.

Libertariat

Your logic is terrible. Why didn't Honda equip civics with Volks and b20s? Much less, stiffer suspension and shocks.

3 point strut bars are "the best" however Neuspeed designs that grab onto the UCA are really much better for lateral traction and reducing chassis flex.

Anything with a joint is "bad."

Bad being subjective and to be taken with a grain of salt.

9tailsfox

Could be the cosmetic. Because 2ways look simple and not take much space. am I right on this?

grumblemarc

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BryanM.

iTrader: (1)

And talk about flex, the regular OE strut bars are about as rigid as spaghetti.
Better than nothing I guess.


EDIT: That Carbing 3 pt. with the MC brace is sweet.

EDIT2: Had to post these. My favorite Integra w/ Carbing bar:

Red_Army

basically all of that ^^
3points or bust.
no bolts except for what holds them to your car.

the first two pictured were as stated junk. they flex at the bolts and that is the weak point of any bar made like that.

you can get some 3pt if you spend enough time lookin for a little bit more then crappy 2pt.


EDIT-really mcvtec? like the GSR strut bar?

grumblemarc

iTrader: (4)

You want to avoid points of failure. Those points on the bars you posted are right there where the bars bolt to the strut mounts. These decrease rigidity of the piece and are therefore useless.

BryanM.

iTrader: (1)

I can flex it with my bare hand. It's just sheet metal, really.

Red_Army

sad...good thing i never bought that.

grumblemarc

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The bar on that one isn't attached to the firewall.

Go_Race_Your_Self

hhahahaha



Kev

spAdam

iTrader: (1)

As long as its a solid bar bending it is a totally irrelevant way to test its effectiveness. The bar is loaded in tension and compression only.

Also a three point will destroy your firewall in a minor fender bender and I highly doubt you would notice a difference from a two point anyway

DSMAddicted

FWIW, my setup looks almost identical to 1st picture OP posted.

I *did* feel a tangible difference when I installed the ITR bar.

Can bars with less-joints/more-points or those that mount directly on suspension provide additional rigidity? Sure.
But the above pictured ITR bar made a nice difference on its own.

grumblemarc

iTrader: (4)

But that still doesn't inspire confidence regardless of the facts. People kinda like that tactile feeling of strength

And that's a whole different topic. But yes, I did. I can feel the difference when I take it completely off. And it aint no butt dyno either.