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Naturally Aspirated 08-09-2004 12:20 PM

Are Flywheels very effective?
 
Here is the deal, the shop wants 250 dollars labor from me to put a clutch in.
The ACT clutch HDSS cost me about 400

Should i get a flywheel too? since the labor is so expensive?
they would put the flywheel and clutch in for with the same labor.

However, i'd just did a swap and i am runnung short on money. The clutch is almost completely gone. Should i just stay with the factory flywheel or should I change the flywheel as well and starve for the rest of the month?

Are flywheels effective enough for me to think that it's worthed to be money tight for the rest of the month?

Marauder 08-09-2004 12:24 PM

Re: Are Flywheels very effective? (gwiser)
 
Since the transmission is taken out for the clutch job, I'd put in a flywheel. I have a Streetlite ACT flywheel in my civic and love it. The engine likes to rev more, $200 well spent. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

Deemeetree 08-09-2004 12:25 PM

Why not just let them resurface the flywheel and you install the clutch yourself? Paying all this money for someone else to do the job isn't right. Sometimes, they don't know what they are doing and do half-ass jobs. With the money you save on the labor, you can get yourself a nice, new, lightened flywheel and your new swap will feel a lot better due to the fact that it will rev up high a lot faster, plus, compliment your new ACT clutch.

Naturally Aspirated 08-09-2004 01:00 PM

Re: (Dimi)
 
But i dont know how!!
i'd done my suspension jobs, and i'd never done anything on my tranny and engine.
i am worried that i do a poor job on it and messes it up. Is there any link that u can provide me for step by step instructions on how to swap a clutch?

eg2rs 08-09-2004 10:05 PM

Re: (Naturally Aspirated)
 
You can do it!!!! Get a helms manual from Helminc.com, and follow the directions. I did my first clutch and flywheel in 4 hrs. Had never done one or even seen it done, it was so easy. After you do it you will feel like they where robbing you at 250. Good luck

NateTL17 08-09-2004 10:10 PM

Re: (eg2rs)
 
What kind of tools do you need to do a whole clutch job?
And I mean to do a good accurate job

I'm not looking forward to my next replacement...

98k20ex 08-09-2004 10:16 PM

Re: (NateTL17)
 
get helms manual for your car and it will tell you everything you need. even if you don't use it for this clutch, u'll use it for a lot of other things later on.

Redline96LX 08-09-2004 10:33 PM

Re: Are Flywheels very effective? (Naturally Aspirated)
 
IF you want it done professionally cause you dont wanna fuck up your car, thats cool. But If your clutch is that bad, your flywheel may be in need of a new surface. most shope will charge so much in labor for resurfacing one, its the same to buy a new one, aftermarket or honda. but OEM from like a honda wholesale site is a hell of a lot cheaper than like a dealership.

Kendall 08-09-2004 10:46 PM

The first clutch job I did, I had nothing but a Haynes manual, and some Wal-Mart tools. Everything was as straightforward as could be and it's rather hard to fuck up (assuming you can operate a torque wrench properly).

That being said, I think that a flywheel upgrade is most definately worth the money. Considering the fact that there is essentially no down side to the mod, plus the fact that everything will be out anyway makes it all the more worth it. I rocked a 6.5 lb flywheel with an Exedy OEM replacement clutch on a stock CX motor (with an EX tranny) and it really livened up the motor, moreso than I ever initially thought it could.

crashN2u 08-09-2004 10:55 PM

Re: (Kendall)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Redline96LX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">IF you want it done professionally cause you dont wanna fuck up your car, thats cool. But If your clutch is that bad, your flywheel may be in need of a new surface. most shope will charge so much in labor for resurfacing one, its the same to buy a new one, aftermarket or honda. but OEM from like a honda wholesale site is a hell of a lot cheaper than like a dealership.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's why I got a lightweight flywheel. It was cheaper than getting the stock one resurfaced.

CivicVX94 08-09-2004 11:01 PM

Re: Are Flywheels very effective? (Naturally Aspirated)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Naturally Aspirated &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Are flywheels effective enough for me to think that it's worthed to be money tight for the rest of the month?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm so pumped I got to this first.
Flywheels are quite effective if you want the car to run.
HAHAHA i had to https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif

I'm guessing your talking about lightened fly wheels, I've HEARD they are good for naturally aspirated engines, and judging by you sn i'm guessing that's what you're staying. but if you're planning on going FI stay stock and run an extra half pound of boost to make up for the power loss. lightened flywheels aren't as tough as the heavy as shit stock ones.
Also don't bother resurfacing when you can get a brand spanking new one for almost the same price, check this out http://clutchcityonline.com/Me...8-022
just my $.02 and goodluck with it

OBD1Kenobe 08-09-2004 11:23 PM

Re: Are Flywheels very effective? (Naturally Aspirated)
 
I dunno' where people are getting their resurfacing prices from, but I paid $28 at a local mom-&-pop speciality parts shop. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif

...Just relating my experience with resurfacing.

Anyway, doing the work yourself isn't as tough as you may think. An accurate torque wrench, twelve-point sockets, a jack, jackstands and a buddy are really all you need. And a Helms, of course. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif

I understand that ripping the tranny off of your engine can seem like an intimidating task though. So if you have to pay the labor for someone else to do it and you think you may want a lightened flywheel eventually, the smart thing to do would be to go ahead and have it done now.

Again, as Redline96LX mentioned, you may have glazed/cracked your current flywheel anyway. This brings us back to the resurfaced/oem/lightened flywheel question. In anycase, you'll be spending more money, so I say suck it up and go lightened.

^^^my .02

senpai 08-09-2004 11:29 PM

Re: Are Flywheels very effective? (OBD1Kenobe)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OBD1Kenobe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I dunno' where people are getting their resurfacing prices from, but I paid $28 at a local mom-&-pop speciality parts shop. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif

...Just relating my experience with resurfacing.

Anyway, doing the work yourself isn't as tough as you may think. An accurate torque wrench, twelve-point sockets, a jack, jackstands and a buddy are really all you need. And a Helms, of course. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif

I understand that ripping the tranny off of your engine can seem like an intimidating task though. So if you have to pay the labor for someone else to do it and you think you may want a lightened flywheel eventually, the smart thing to do would be to go ahead and have it done now.

Again, as Redline96LX mentioned, you may have glazed/cracked your current flywheel anyway. This brings us back to the resurfaced/oem/lightened flywheel question. In anycase, you'll be spending more money, so I say suck it up and go lightened.

^^^my .02</TD></TR></TABLE>

foreal, I paid slightly more to resurface my flywheel, but not nearly as much to buy a brand new one

duh blacksheep 08-09-2004 11:54 PM

Re: Are Flywheels very effective? (maztur)
 
get a flywheel if you know why you need it. dont get it just cause labor is included.

Pat McGroin 08-10-2004 12:05 AM

Re: Are Flywheels very effective? (duh blacksheep)
 
Get a couple of friends, or heck maybe someone on HT that is local to you could help you out. Just ask aorund. Popping off the tranny and replacing the parts is not difficult.

Only bitch part is getting the spindle aligned and mounted onto the motor. Takes a few tries. Do yourself a favor, learn your car and save money.

As far as difficulty I give it two wrenches out of five. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif

Naturally Aspirated 08-10-2004 08:56 AM

Re: (eg2rs)
 
Which manuel should i get?
Helm has got a lot of manuals...
I have a 99ex 2dr chasis, with a SIRII (b16a2) Engine and tranny
can you give me the ISBN or the title?

Naturally Aspirated 08-10-2004 08:58 AM

Re: (Naturally Aspirated)
 
Do you think the 96-00 Honda Civic service manuel would be the one?

Pythagoras 08-10-2004 10:19 AM

Re: Are Flywheels very effective? (Naturally Aspirated)
 
my clutch went bad a while back and I had to replace it and ran into the same issues you are. I decided that while the shop was working on the tranny they should just go ahead and throw in a new flywheel. I dont regret doing it one bit.

senpai 08-10-2004 04:37 PM

Re: (Naturally Aspirated)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Naturally Aspirated &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do you think the 96-00 Honda Civic service manuel would be the one?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, the 96-00 manual includes all 96-00 Civics including the 99-00 SI model with the B16A2

91civicDXdude 08-10-2004 04:45 PM

dude any place with a machine shop will charge the same amount to resurface a flywheel as they will to resurface brake rotors.

O'Reilly's did my brothers flywheel for $12

BLUE EH3 08-10-2004 04:57 PM

Re: Are Flywheels very effective? (Marauder)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Marauder &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Since the transmission is taken out for the clutch job, I'd put in a flywheel. I have a Streetlite ACT flywheel in my civic and love it. The engine likes to rev more, $200 well spent. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif </TD></TR></TABLE> 200 bucks.. damn i was lookin at exdexy ones for like 400+. i got my flywheel resurfaced for 48 with taxes.. but yes lite flywheels are the shit!

prennro 08-10-2004 06:51 PM

Re: Are Flywheels very effective? (Marauder)
 
WORD! https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

Im running the same flywheel and it makes alll of the diff. in the world. It takes all of 10 more minutes to swap one out. You might as well do it. Have a yard sale, make the $200 on junk, and there you go. Worked for me!


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