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Old 12-18-2011, 08:28 PM
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Hey, first of all sorry If I'm posting in wrong section or If I didn't search correctly, but I tried looking and couldn't find an answer.

Here's what happened:

I just bough a 93 Del Sol with a bad head gasket(Blowing white from exhaust) It is an automatic and has a d15b7 engine. All stock. Well I've gotten a different quotes to replace the head gasket, and the best one so far has been 460 for labor and parts + everything else that might need to be fixed along with it. So they told me to plan on an extra 100 for the head to be re-surfaced, and possibly water & timing belt (extra 200-300) they said. So that bring me to a total of anywhere of 560 to 860. Engine has 180k miles on it.

So what would you guys recommend, fixing the parts, or getting a whole 'new' engine?

I'm pretty new to cars, I know my basics but haven't acquired much knowledge on swaps and such.

If you guys recommend getting a new engine, what engine can just be dropped in there without needing too many mods and not too much money? Would i have to get a new transmission too? All help will be greatly appreciated.
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man it suck you have to pay a shop, you dont have any mechanic buddys (that know what they are doing) that could help you out?

i have done head gasket timingbelt water pump, and including resurface head on d-series for under $200 bucks, but thats doing labor myself
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Well it all depends on what you do. Unless you want to convert to manual, I would just find another D series or fix the one you have. If you plan on converting to manual, I would recommend a B18, for lots of aftermarket, or a K20 for part availability since B series were dropped quite a while ago.

A D16Z6 might have a tad more pep in its step, I am not sure what the torque converters in the transmissions hold up to though. Should be pretty direct swap.

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shoot if ur in New Mexico by chance LMK maybe i can come help u out
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Yeah, no mechanic buddies.... I have one but he's busy 24/7 and wouldn't be able to get to do it for a while... And this is my commute car. I would want to do a manual swap, but I'm at a 1k limit right now. Overpriced shops.. and thats the cheapest I've found too :/ others have been asking 800 just for head gasket..
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And I'm in Utah :/ if anyone around here. let me know.

I Just found a D16z6 with manual transmission for 500 on my local classifieds. Suggestions? Would that just be dropped easily without having to change transmission or anything? How much would labor be?
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**** man, I would go for it myself. Just take your time and look at what you are doing and ask questions if you need help.
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Damn, I wouldn't even know where to start.... I would try, but I doubt I even have the tools, and I need to get it back on the road in a week, due to it being my only car. Do you guys know if that d16z6 can just be dropped there? Even tho its v-tec?
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I also see this guy selling the following

"this is a frankinstien motor its the first generation acura integra's DOHC block otherwise known as the d16a1 or in japan the ZC. the ZC block has the d16y8 vtec SOHC head on it. It has 12-8-1 compression with the stock ZC pistons. head is complete intake manifond injector's everything. also comes with obd1 p28 ECU and vtec wiring harness. call or text anytime" for 300 O.B.O

ideas, thoughts?
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No way would I ever dump $560-860 into a single with 180k on it.

Not worth it at all.
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So would a d16z6 or ZC (d16a1) just be able to be dropped in there? With same transmission i have in there already?
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So would a d16z6 or ZC (d16a1) just be able to be dropped in there? With same transmission i have in there already?
Swapping just the block, keeping the head, and orginal ecu, you should be okay.

But, while your in, 5spd swap it.
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Isn't a 5spd swap pretty pricey tho?
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Originally Posted by xPRIMO
Isn't a 5spd swap pretty pricey tho?
Define "pricey".
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Originally Posted by xPRIMO
Isn't a 5spd swap pretty pricey tho?
no its not you can get a swap and tranny from Hmotors for around 800 bucks D15B Vtec and thats a great importer and all the stuff like likage pedals lines master cylinder can cost you around 30 bucks at a junkyard
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Originally Posted by xPRIMO
Isn't a 5spd swap pretty pricey tho?
$600ish, if you can find good deals, and do the work yourself.

*For a single cam*
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I've been getting quotes for a swap of about 1000+
but its definitely something I plan on doing.

So what kind of engine can just be dropped in there right now, keeping the same transmission (for now)
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Originally Posted by xPRIMO
I've been getting quotes for a swap of about 1000+
but its definitely something I plan on doing.

So what kind of engine can just be dropped in there right now, keeping the same transmission (for now)
I guess it depends on your area, who you know, and again, are doing the work yourself.


Z6, y8/y7 block, among others. But, these would be my go to's, in order.
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Default Re: Fix or put new engine?

post a ad in our local section. im sure someone would love to make a extra buck! and will save you an extra buck!


or better yet. do it yourself. your in the wrong scene if your not willing to learn/fix your car. (no effense) theres step by step threads,
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