redintheface

Just like it says . I have a b18c1 with skunks2 mani , CAI , dc 4-1 header , and greedy sp cat back but my muffler fell a part so I'm running with stock muffler and i have like no tred on my tires in a ek hatch with a wings west buddy club kit and almost a full tank off gass. by the way this is my first time to the track.
here is my best time slip. i lunched at 3G's

r/t 1.209
60' 2.310
330 6.533
1/8 10.012
hph 71.34
1000 12.957
1/4 15.487
mph 89.58
what I'm i doing wrong. From what people tell me i should be running at lest 14's.

1999all_motoR_teg

First of all what kind of car is it in?? What the hell is a Wings West Buddy Club kit? I thought it was either a Wings West kit OR a Buddy Club kit but I may be wrong not that it matters.

Your 60' time isn't the greatest but I've seen worse. Well first of all your car can't breathe with the stock exhaust so that's hurting you but I'm sure you know that.

Secondly from what I understand unless your motor is built more than what you have a Skunk2 Manifold could actually be hurting you a bit as well.

Your car is just not making the power, by the looks of your "mph" a 15.4 is what you should be hitting around. It's not a traction issue really.

redintheface

its a ek hatch and the kit is a WW buddy club style. I have a obd2 ecu and its running realy rich . could that be some of the problem. any one eals have any help .

redintheface

bump

Noe Kozz

get yourself some drag radials or slicks or better tires, hook up something other than that stock exhaust and a little less gas on the tank.

Hatchy-Ownzjo0

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Wrong.. If he does not have the correct/chipped ecu, then it willl hurt his performance. Otherwise it will drastically improve performance.

Running rich does not help anything.. Also get some better gripping tires or slicks. Get the chipped ecu for your intake mani if you don't already have it.

nsxmatt

How do you know it's running rich? My car smells rich and dumps fuel out the back but still runs decent times. Yes you should be running 14's so you need to check and see what is wrong with your car, any CEL's?

If your car has bad tires and is running rich you need to fix those problems before you run it at the track.

95hbMatt

correction- it's a jdm b18c gsr motor and he's running an obd2 itr ecu and throwing codes..don't know what codes he's running tho...

crucial si

you finished at a high mph..so you have to work on your launch..from your mph, you should be at a really low 15-high 14.

redintheface

I have a type r obd2 ecu. what is the best ecu for my set up? Also i have a greddy sp B pipe and i should be getting my muffler back soon. I'm also getting rid of my kit soon and getting some 5zigen FN-01R wheels and some Falken Azenis . any mpre help.

Prevail

Those times are really slow for that setup.. Stock exhaust is waaaay to restrictive.

Get a new muffler (ES/Magnaflow oval looks good IMO) and do basic tune up/maintenence items and run it again. You should be pretty deep into the 14's unless you weigh like 600 lbs

function83

get a better r/t time and 60 ft.s and your quarter mile will be faster.

try runnin without the muffler and play around with launching to achieve better r/t and 60 foots.

SpoonFedHatch

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dont worry about your RT, it has NOTHING to do with your ET

just work on launching

you need more practice driving, that car should be in the mid 14's or lower provided it's a 92-95 civic hatch/coupe

I8ayellowcrayon

One way to take advantage of the rich situation, upgrade your ignition. Just a hot coils or something. I know it won't help that much, but hey. Its a pretty good upgrade for cars that are pushing a lot of fuel. Running rich actually hurts your performance because the lack of air results in insufficient burning of the fuel/air. And the stock muffler causes too much back pressure. Get better spark and get a low rest. muffler, and you'll be getting a lot better times. I dare say you may even get it into the 14's. Also what size rims and tires are you running? Anything over 16's will hurt your performance. If you're running rich, start your run at about 2500 rpm. If you start at idle (which I've noticed a lot of people do; tires slipping???) you will close to flood the thing. Just play around with it man. You can't expect to get your best time on your first run either...

95hbMatt

I would hope he would be in the 14s cuz we were dumbfounded cuz I was running better times than him that night and I know his setup is stronger than mine...here's my setup and times:
95 dx hatch w/ 96 LS motor/tranny w/usdm itr header, 2.25" test pipe mated to stock dx exhaust(haven't had time to put on my new exhaust), aem cai, act hdss clutch, 1/4 tank of gas, 15x7 wheels on 195/50 yokohama's, full interior and koni yellow full coilovers.

r/t .938
60' 2.237 shitty
330 6.329
1/8 9.783
MPH 71.58
1000 12.734
1/4 15.270
MPH 89.38
300ft. above sea level

Hopefully with more practice and when I put my exhaust on and few other things i'm sure i'll be close to breaking 14's...so I know his **** should be hittin alot better times than me with his setup.....

Hatchy-Ownzjo0

get the correct stuff for your intake mani. you are running on secondaries, a skunk2 mani eliminates the secondaries. If you don't get your ecu chipped then it will hurt your power band severely. If you are wondering why you are running crappy it is mainly because of your exhaust and intake mani. but don't take my word for it.. do some research.

LazYRaCeR

Hows the elevation where you guys are at? I noticed that both of the guys that ran, where a bit slower then they should be if they ran down here in Houston, both of those setups would be down in the 14s here in Houston.... just a suggestion....

95hbMatt

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He's running a Skunk2 manifold with ITR ecu. Is this setup fine??

95hbMatt

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300ft. above sea level

simplegreenmachine

your R/t sucks..work on that and get some slicks

redintheface

yeah i know my 60' suck *** becuse i have bald *** triers . But what ecu should i get to get the skunks2 mani to work right? Right now i'm running a obd2 ITR ecu.
HELP ME OUT GUYS.

Hatchy-Ownzjo0

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No.. Thats not fine. He needs to get his ecu CHIPPED. He would have to send it out to a place that will do it. There are some guys runnin around on Honda-Tech who do it. Contact Rocket. He sells skunk2 intake mani's and i think they chip the ecu's or sell already chipped ones. Send him a PM.

Edit: It's gonna cost him like 200 - 250 bucs to get it chipped or like 400 for a new ecu. This is why you do research before you buy a product. This is also why i don't have a skunk2 mani yet. Because i don't have 350 for the mani, and then another 300 for the ecu. A b18c1 in a hatch with intake/header/exhaust/skunk2 mani with correct ecu are known to run high 13's. Just fyi.

nsxmatt

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Where do you people still get that R/T has anything to do with your times? He could sit at the light and listen to In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida with the drum solo and still run the same time.

redintheface

thanks so mostly its the ecu . i guess i'll just have to get the right ecu and then sell the itr one. ohh well .

95hbMatt

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No.. Thats not fine. He needs to get his ecu CHIPPED. He would have to send it out to a place that will do it. There are some guys runnin around on Honda-Tech who do it. Contact Rocket. He sells skunk2 intake mani's and i think they chip the ecu's or sell already chipped ones. Send him a PM.

Edit: It's gonna cost him like 200 - 250 bucs to get it chipped or like 400 for a new ecu. This is why you do research before you buy a product. This is also why i don't have a skunk2 mani yet. Because i don't have 350 for the mani, and then another 300 for the ecu. A b18c1 in a hatch with intake/header/exhaust/skunk2 mani with correct ecu are known to run high 13's. Just fyi.</TD></TR></TABLE>

EDIT: OBD2 ECU's can't be chipped correct?? So he would need to run a chipped OBD1 ECU?? I'm trying to talk him into getting a chipped P28