Finding out the age of an engine?
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Finding out the age of an engine?
I was given an engine from an old mate of mine. However he doesnt really know much about it.
Is there anyway of finding out any information on an engine? Its a B engine of somesort, thats about all i know.
Any info would be well appreciated. thanks.
Is there anyway of finding out any information on an engine? Its a B engine of somesort, thats about all i know.
Any info would be well appreciated. thanks.
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There should be an engine code to the left on the block, Kinda under the distributor.
http://asia.vtec.net/topics/engcode1.jpg
http://asia.vtec.net/topics/engcode1.jpg
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Re: (ifIexplode)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ifIexplode »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There should be an engine code to the left on the block, Kinda under the distributor.
http://asia.vtec.net/topics/engcode1.jpg</TD></TR></TABLE>
That tells you nothing about the YEAR of the engine.
There is a year stamped on the cylinder head above the exhaust ports on the head. It looks like a 9/? with the "?" being the the other part of the year.
Example? If the engine was manufactured in 92 the stamp wpuld look like 9/2, etc. etc.
The thing is that sometimes a year stamp or 9/1 means the engine was made in 1991, but is actually still a "1992" model engine, or "second-gen" engine.
A pic of a 1988 model D16A6 Honda cylinder head:
It's the stamp on the right side of the pic - the 8/8
http://asia.vtec.net/topics/engcode1.jpg</TD></TR></TABLE>
That tells you nothing about the YEAR of the engine.
There is a year stamped on the cylinder head above the exhaust ports on the head. It looks like a 9/? with the "?" being the the other part of the year.
Example? If the engine was manufactured in 92 the stamp wpuld look like 9/2, etc. etc.
The thing is that sometimes a year stamp or 9/1 means the engine was made in 1991, but is actually still a "1992" model engine, or "second-gen" engine.
A pic of a 1988 model D16A6 Honda cylinder head:
It's the stamp on the right side of the pic - the 8/8
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Re: (B18C5-EH2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C5-EH2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That tells you nothing about the YEAR of the engine.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The OP said he didn't know anything besides that it was some sort of B-series engine. ifiexplode is trying to help the OP find out what kind of engine the OP has. Obviously the OP would probably want that information too, especially since he mentioned he's not sure what it is.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ifIexplode »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">He didnt specifically ask for the year of the engine. </TD></TR></TABLE>
But he asked the age, which you're not going to have a two-year-old engine that has a manufacture date of '88 (for example). i.e., the manufacture date will tell the approximate age of the engine.
The OP said he didn't know anything besides that it was some sort of B-series engine. ifiexplode is trying to help the OP find out what kind of engine the OP has. Obviously the OP would probably want that information too, especially since he mentioned he's not sure what it is.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ifIexplode »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">He didnt specifically ask for the year of the engine. </TD></TR></TABLE>
But he asked the age, which you're not going to have a two-year-old engine that has a manufacture date of '88 (for example). i.e., the manufacture date will tell the approximate age of the engine.
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Re: (ifIexplode)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ifIexplode »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">He didnt specifically ask for the year of the engine. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes my bad seeing as how I focused on the title of the topic more so than the message body.
You helped him gather exactly what kind of B series he has by giving him the block code area, and I helped him narrow the year down with the year stamp on the cylinder head.
Yes my bad seeing as how I focused on the title of the topic more so than the message body.
You helped him gather exactly what kind of B series he has by giving him the block code area, and I helped him narrow the year down with the year stamp on the cylinder head.
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Thanks for the response people. Having found that it was manufactured in 1991 and its a b16a2. Is there anywhere or anyplace i could enter my "engine code" to get some more info on it? Thanks.
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Most info about B16A2s will be for the '99-'00 Civic Si (EM1) from the US.
It looks like this could be a European Civic/CRX (del Sol) SiR or VTi engine. I think... (I'm not used to seeing such old A2s).
That puts it at about 160hp and 111-118 lb-ft.
It looks like this could be a European Civic/CRX (del Sol) SiR or VTi engine. I think... (I'm not used to seeing such old A2s).
That puts it at about 160hp and 111-118 lb-ft.
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Re: (Chef Andre)
A B16A2 is an OBD2 engine first introduced in 1996 in the Del Sol VTEC, then 1997 Del Sol VTEC, then 99-00 Civic Si coupes. Some will argue with me on the Del Sol info, but it's true. The 1994-1995 Del Sol VTEC had the OBD1 version called the B16A3. Most people think the B16A2 only came in our 99-00 Civic Si.
As far as it being a "1991" then it's either a 1991 pre-OBD Japanese B16A, or a 1992 OBD1 grey plug B16A "second-gen" also incorrectly referred to by many as "B16A2" when you see why that's incorrect now.
If the block literally says B16A2 for it's code, and the head stamp os 9/1 then someone literally put an older 91 head on a newer 96-up B16A2 block, because that combo is not possible from the factory.
***EDIT***
Unless someone can provide info os any Euro 1992 Honda/Acura vehicle literally having a "B16A2" engine I stand by my "impossible" 1991 B16A2 statement.
As far as it being a "1991" then it's either a 1991 pre-OBD Japanese B16A, or a 1992 OBD1 grey plug B16A "second-gen" also incorrectly referred to by many as "B16A2" when you see why that's incorrect now.
If the block literally says B16A2 for it's code, and the head stamp os 9/1 then someone literally put an older 91 head on a newer 96-up B16A2 block, because that combo is not possible from the factory.
***EDIT***
Unless someone can provide info os any Euro 1992 Honda/Acura vehicle literally having a "B16A2" engine I stand by my "impossible" 1991 B16A2 statement.
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Well, here's a 1991 CRX that had a stock B16A2:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/339371.htm
More:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Honda-Ci...wItem
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/339371.htm
More:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Honda-Ci...wItem
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Re: (B18C5-EH2)
If it were a Japanese B16A, it wouldn't be a B16A2, it'd be a B16A.
There are a few engines originally sold in Japan as letter, number, number, letter number, but most don't have that last number.
I can show that EDM del Sols came with a B16A, but I can't show that it's an A2. I'm talking abou comparing it to part numbers in the EPC.
I might be able to get a European member to post a car with one, but I can't do that right now (about to go to work).
There are a few engines originally sold in Japan as letter, number, number, letter number, but most don't have that last number.
I can show that EDM del Sols came with a B16A, but I can't show that it's an A2. I'm talking abou comparing it to part numbers in the EPC.
I might be able to get a European member to post a car with one, but I can't do that right now (about to go to work).
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Re: (Eran)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eran »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, here's a 1991 CRX that had a stock B16A2:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/339371.htm</TD></TR></TABLE>
Vehicle might have the B16A2, but it doesn't say it was stock. It says the previous owner bought it "because of its B16A2 engine" which could have just as well been swapped in, not factory. The guy who bought my wife's 1992 Si hatchback with the 99 B16A2 swap bought it too "for it's B16A2 engine" but it wasn't factory.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">More:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Honda-Ci...wItem
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ebay is hardly proof. I'll be glad to show you pages of "Prelude Type R" parts if you don't believe me.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/339371.htm</TD></TR></TABLE>
Vehicle might have the B16A2, but it doesn't say it was stock. It says the previous owner bought it "because of its B16A2 engine" which could have just as well been swapped in, not factory. The guy who bought my wife's 1992 Si hatchback with the 99 B16A2 swap bought it too "for it's B16A2 engine" but it wasn't factory.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">More:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Honda-Ci...wItem
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ebay is hardly proof. I'll be glad to show you pages of "Prelude Type R" parts if you don't believe me.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C5-EH2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Vehicle might have the B16A2, but it doesn't say it was stock. It says the previous owner bought it "because of its B16A2 engine" which could have just as well been swapped in, not factory. The guy who bought my wife's 1992 Si hatchback with the 99 B16A2 swap bought it too "for it's B16A2 engine" but it wasn't factory.
Ebay is hardly proof. I'll be glad to show you pages of "Prelude Type R" parts if you don't believe me.
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Just providing the info I got. That auctioneer also seems a bit more informed than "Prelude Type R" people.
Vehicle might have the B16A2, but it doesn't say it was stock. It says the previous owner bought it "because of its B16A2 engine" which could have just as well been swapped in, not factory. The guy who bought my wife's 1992 Si hatchback with the 99 B16A2 swap bought it too "for it's B16A2 engine" but it wasn't factory.
Ebay is hardly proof. I'll be glad to show you pages of "Prelude Type R" parts if you don't believe me.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Just providing the info I got. That auctioneer also seems a bit more informed than "Prelude Type R" people.
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Re: (B18C5-EH2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C5-EH2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Vehicle might have the B16A2, but it doesn't say it was stock. It says the previous owner bought it "because of its B16A2 engine" which could have just as well been swapped in, not factory. The guy who bought my wife's 1992 Si hatchback with the 99 B16A2 swap bought it too "for it's B16A2 engine" but it wasn't factory.
Ebay is hardly proof. I'll be glad to show you pages of "Prelude Type R" parts if you don't believe me.
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Then unless we get a sheet from Honda that says a certain car in Europe came stock with a B16A2 as early as 1992, it's not good enough proof to you because it could always be a swap.
Here are the cars such an engine could be from.
EG2
92-98 CRX del Sol
VTEC, SiR, VTi
B16A/B16A2/B16A3
North America, Japan, Europe, etc.
EG6
91-95 Civic hatch
SiR, SiR-II, VTi, VTi-S
B16A/B16A2
Japan, Europe, New Zealand, etc.
EG9
91-95 Civic sedan
SiR, VTi
Japan, Europe, New Zealand, etc.
Vehicle might have the B16A2, but it doesn't say it was stock. It says the previous owner bought it "because of its B16A2 engine" which could have just as well been swapped in, not factory. The guy who bought my wife's 1992 Si hatchback with the 99 B16A2 swap bought it too "for it's B16A2 engine" but it wasn't factory.
Ebay is hardly proof. I'll be glad to show you pages of "Prelude Type R" parts if you don't believe me.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Then unless we get a sheet from Honda that says a certain car in Europe came stock with a B16A2 as early as 1992, it's not good enough proof to you because it could always be a swap.
Here are the cars such an engine could be from.
EG2
92-98 CRX del Sol
VTEC, SiR, VTi
B16A/B16A2/B16A3
North America, Japan, Europe, etc.
EG6
91-95 Civic hatch
SiR, SiR-II, VTi, VTi-S
B16A/B16A2
Japan, Europe, New Zealand, etc.
EG9
91-95 Civic sedan
SiR, VTi
Japan, Europe, New Zealand, etc.
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Re: (B18C5-EH2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C5-EH2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">***EDIT***
Unless someone can provide info os any Euro 1992 Honda/Acura vehicle literally having a "B16A2" engine I stand by my "impossible" 1991 B16A2 statement.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Found it.
1992 (and '93 listed on this page) CRX
1992 Civic hatch
1992 Civic sedan
Modified by NOFX at 10:45 PM 1/17/2008
Unless someone can provide info os any Euro 1992 Honda/Acura vehicle literally having a "B16A2" engine I stand by my "impossible" 1991 B16A2 statement.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Found it.
1992 (and '93 listed on this page) CRX
1992 Civic hatch
1992 Civic sedan
Modified by NOFX at 10:45 PM 1/17/2008
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this is actually help full cause ive always wanted to know what kindof B16 i have cause the head says 9|1 and its obd1 i dont know about the block cause i have an Ls/VTEC
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Re: (jeremyowns18)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jeremyowns18 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">as far as i know the earliest model having a b16a2 was indeed the del sol vtec model..my best friend has one.. but i could be wrong</TD></TR></TABLE>
IN THE US the earliest model to have the B16A2 is the 1996 del Sol VTEC. The 1997 del Sol VTEC also had the A2. The 1994 Civic del Sol VTEC and 1995 del Sol VTEC had the B16A3.
I did post the proof above showing that in Europe the 1992 CRX (del Sol) VTi and 1992 Civic VTi hatches and sedans had the B16A2. Looks like ImageShack is down right now though. Well, not down (one image is showing for me),but acting weird.
IN THE US the earliest model to have the B16A2 is the 1996 del Sol VTEC. The 1997 del Sol VTEC also had the A2. The 1994 Civic del Sol VTEC and 1995 del Sol VTEC had the B16A3.
I did post the proof above showing that in Europe the 1992 CRX (del Sol) VTi and 1992 Civic VTi hatches and sedans had the B16A2. Looks like ImageShack is down right now though. Well, not down (one image is showing for me),but acting weird.