Vaw7er

I'm a first timer...i'm not a NOOB, but this is MY first build.. and I'm Preparing to Turbo my D16z6 and i'm going to use these products... my budget is around $2000 and this is at $1668 so far, i have the turbo kit so no worries there.. but am i missing anything?

KMS Ultimate Valve Train Package
A set of new Dual Racing Springs, Titanium Retainers,Stainless Steel Racing Valves, Valve Guide seals, and a blockguard.
Price - 599.00


Eagle Rods - D16
These high-quality rods are an inexpensive insurance for turbo/supercharged applications because you know you are going to turn the boost up!
Price - $375.00

KMS Forged Pistons - D16
These pistons come balanced with peened and polished faces to remove dangerous hot-spots and prevent detonation.
Price - $499.95

ARP Sport Compact Head Studs
Honda D16 10mm,, ARP Cylinder Head Studs
Price - $95.99

450cc DSM Injectors
Price about $80.00

i know i'll need a new fuel pump for NOS, so what is reccomended? what else is needed?

I'm trying to make it handle about 12Psi, and 15-18Psi plus a 75 shot at the track.

1d10t

management. those injectors will be limitting at 18 psi plus a 75 shot.

Vaw7er

So What Injectors do You reccomend?

1d10t

something around 650-750 cc.

Vaw7er

What about a fuel Pump?

1d10t

over kill is good, especially on pump gas. i ran a built d16y8 on 22psi daily on rc750cc and hondata s300 with a plx m300 wide band

doood

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walbro hp 255

1d10t

walbro 255 will suffice.

Vaw7er

What are the biggest cheapest injectors that will fit in my rail?

1d10t

rc will fit stock rail(i used stock rail) around $300

Jay_Sensing

Those 450's will be fine on what he will be making. This is a D series motor with pistons and rods, not a sleeved H with a T04R. probably looking at around 300whp on a good day with the setup with no bottle and I personally made 320 without stressing a set of DSM 450's. Still at 90% DC.

Walbro 255 will be more than enough fuel pump for that setup so you will be good there. Only suggestion I could make would be ditch the block guard, it's not cheap insurance, it's not even insurance. If it's going to split a sleeve, it's just going to do it lower with a block guard than without. Still going to break.

Use the 100 bucks you would have spent on that and get an extra hour of street tuning to make sure it's going to be safe and you will be fine.

Vaw7er

You sure those injectors will suffice? i don't want to overdrive them.. what about a Cam? or gears?

doood

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work out what size injectors you'll need yourself here: http://rceng.com/technical.htm

Vaw7er

that's cool, but i have no idea what my horsepower will be @ so... i guess ill get 550's and dyno it, and go from there. but am i missing anything else? how much is sleeving and do i need it?

doood

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people have said stock d16 sleeves are good for ~400whp. sleeving is typically $800+ so you decide if you need it.

Vaw7er

****... well i guess i don't have much of an option.... some one reccomended a ramhorn intake manifold? i'm not sure if thats right but they said its a huge benefit. then tune with Neptune...

doood

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i think they meant ramhorn turbo manifold. they look nice and pretty and typically contribute to better spool and power, but again if you're not looking for a ton of hp you can use whatever you already have.

Jay_Sensing

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I have repeatedly seen RC 550's (saturated) and DSM 450's (peak and hold) hit about the same whp mark at the same AFR at 90% DC. What is your overall goal for the car powerwise.


Better yet, what size turbo are you putting on? I can give you a better idea that way.

Vaw7er

i'm not sure... i've never seen anyone build a D16Z6. so i'm not sure. it's not gutted at all, in fact i have competition subs in there... i'll just take it to the track on the weekends and cruise with it during the week. i"m looking for mid 11's to mid 12's.

1d10t

90% duty cycle is dangerous. good way to flutter the pintle. Yea, go ahead, go cheap. youll be sorry. 18 psi and 75 shot of nos is too much for 450cc. even rc recommends 80% be the MAX.

1d10t

according to rc technical website....450cc @ 90% Duty cycle can only handle 255 BRAKE hp @ .65 bsfc with 50 psi. thats about 11-12 psi on a z6. ( with a decent turbo) 550cc can handle closer to 300.

Vaw7er

ok so will 550's work? and if so, can i buy 550's off of something else ( like the 450's off the DSM?)

smileycvc

or you can buy rc injectors so you dont have to run a resistor box.

Vaw7er

ok, i'm just trying to save money but i don't want to cut corners so i'll just buy em!

smileycvc

buy some 750s if you dont use the full capacity of the inector it can be tuned out. then if you upgrade later on you will still have some left over injector.