poison

I don't know about any of you, but those of you who have EX/Si civics, to the best of my knowledge, there is no plexi-glass replacement for our cars for weight reduction/safety precautions.

I am trying to participate in 2003 Honda-Challenge and they recommend removing glass sun/moon roof's. Plus those of you who drag race with EX/Si's, this would be a very nice weight reduction item for it without having to remove the moon roof, or selling your car for a non-equipped moon roof car.

I just talked to Dave at FAL and let him know he'd get a great deal of business because a lot of people have been inquiring about it but he needs the measurements.

I'm about to get measurements from my car and send him all of the information for this to be in production.

I have the EG/EJ (92-95 OEM) measurements and pictures.

What I need is, the EK/EJ of 96-98 and 99-00 equipped OEM sunroofs measurements/thickness and digital pictures, as well as EF cars (CR-X and Civic Si) if EF owners are interested as well.

Those of you who are interested, please call FAL at 800-851-1510 and let them know you would be of great interest for it and would make business. Preferably talk to Dave.

Let's get this in production!

rodrez.

Sounds like a damn good idea! Keep us updated

poison

Tell Dave that Brandon sent ya too

chillly

Great idea!

euclid

wow, amazing timing on this thred... i just posted in a cf hatch thred that fal should do a moonroof, i would buy that in a heartbeat, ill throw in my .02 to fal on tuesday. i have a 94 ex coupe, so sorry but i cant help out w/ any ek pics.

ExospeedAMcrx

why cant you guys just make your own in themeantime? its a pretty easy size to do yourself.

PupaScoopa

Stock up on some Maguiar's #10 or #17 plastic polish... acylic scratches pretty easily.

rodrez.

My buddy has FAL rear windws on his 94 hatch, no problems so far, they look fine after 8 months of use.

Doctor CorteZ

its not recommended , its required.
composite materials are not allowed either , must be same thickness/type of metal to be legal
just like SCCA...

poison

SCCA allows for moonroofs.

euclid

would this piece be replacing just the glass. or can we take out the motor and rails and stuff too, how is it going to mount to the car?

Doctor CorteZ

why you wouldnt fill and strenthen the roof is beyond me.
open hole and carbon fiber bolt in replacement will do nothing for structural rigidity , metal welded or riveted in would.

and FYI , sunroofs are NOT allowed in the Honda-Challenge...

poison

ya I was thinking that.

I was talking to them more and they said to have it removed.

Do you think aftermarket welding/inserts would stabalize the chassis more by having it removed.

I thought Honda-Challege's suggestion for having it removed or replaced (because it DOES say in the rules, if you have a sun roof to have it removed, OR put tape on both sides of the glass.

And also just realized they have add a lot of rules since last year.

No chipped ECU's, and such. Damn that is some strict ****.

Doctor CorteZ

yes.

and it gets rid of weight in the worst place on the car , up top.

poison

After reviewing the rules more...

It dissapoints me that the rules got even more strict for ECHC.
No chipped ECU's, basically "stock" hybrid is as far as you can go.

I'll just have to stick with the SCCA orginization.

Doctor CorteZ

where would you run a hybrid in SCCA , and you may wanna double check the ECU info , I know at least one person that has an H1 kaa with Hondata in it....

whether its legal yet , I dont know but they are making BIG changes in 2004...

poison

I might be wrong..

but on http://www.honda-challenge.com/drivers/forms/rules.pdf

in section 3.2, it says

"Any OEM Honda ECU may be used, and may be relocated ONLY to facilitate cage installation. Reprogramming of OEM ECus is not allowed."

Then again, in the Hybrid section, states engine management is free in H1.

woohoo, same rules apply

mrlegoman

So doc, if it was replaced with a carbon fiber or fiberglass piece, even with the metal bands and rivot, this would not be allowed?

Doctor CorteZ

I dont know but I'm making the carbon fiber block off anyway , I have the old glass to use as a mold and I'll retain an OEM seal.

mrlegoman

That is exaclty what I'm planning to do too. Let me know how it turns out!! I havn't molded anything yet and I'm trying to read up on the whole process. I got a lot of info on the different types of fibers, but very little info on a step by step setup on the mixing of the resines, release compounds, and finishes. Lots of places sell the stuff, but they sell ALL sorts of resines and no one will email me back on exaclty what I need to make a damn simple carbon sheet....grrrr..

Doctor CorteZ

I'll let you know how it turns out , I really dont know if you want to attempt this on your own though...

my friend builds GT-1 body panels out of the **** , this is fun for him.

mrlegoman

I wanted to get into it as a hobby. I have about three Fiberglass/CF molding books that I havn't read yet. I guess there's no 'easy' way around it.

Oh, I guess to stay with the subject. Yes, if FAL would come out with a plexi-glass sun roof for the EX, I would be interested!

Doctor CorteZ

what about another company ?

thats my main goal right now , two options
one keeps the sunroof fully functional and the other gets rid of the assembly.

mrlegoman

(is that a hint? )
Yes, if someone would come out with a kit that replaced the entire sunroof assembly with a single piece of plexi-glass/carbon fiber and/or a replacement for the glass itself, I would be interested.

Doctor CorteZ

in a word , YES.