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Old 08-03-2004, 06:49 PM
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I was just wondering what you guys think is the best motor for a 1992 Civic Hatch. A F20B Accord SiR-T TypeR, H22 Prelude, or a B16A2 Civic Si. No answers based on the swap difficulty please, just thoughts based on your opinions due to the performance of these engines. I personally like the F20B Accord SiR-T TypeR Engine. But I'm not sure where to get the parts for it after i get it. The reason I ask this is because i had a B18C5 But I sold it for $5,000, so i want a cheaper engine so I can spend more money on parts. I also have another post about a F20B vs B18C1 Posted below.

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Old 08-03-2004, 06:56 PM
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My opinion is you should have kept the C5 I am in your same boat. I have a ITR and putting her up for sale. I am getting a hatch and i dont know what motor to get Let me know what you decide.
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b16a= slow compared to b18c or h22

you will end up spending the same as b18c if not more to make the h22 or f20 bolt in
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Trust me, your goal is to balance torque with cost and ease of install. The F swap is a lot of work, and most likely not worth it. The ITR motor is good, but a GSR motor is cheaper and you see similar torque numbers. Especially consider the b18c1 over the b18c5 if you plan to turbo.

Don't waste your time on the b16. If you are going to swap in the first place, why swap a motor with the same displacement?

The H22 swap can also yield awesome numbers if you do it correctly. Just remember to put time and thought into the suspension as this motor will make the front of your car very heavy and will adversly effect handling.
Old 08-03-2004, 07:26 PM
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my h22a hasnt adversely affectd my handling on my hatch that i have noteced. sure its not a handling champion, but all it has is struts and springs all else is stock. the f20 swap will be the same swap as teh h22a with less weight though.
Old 08-03-2004, 07:36 PM
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Out of the three choices...and since you said degree of difficulty doesnt matter I would personally go with the H22. Should have kept the C5 though.......
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use the H, its a STRONG motor, just think of it like this, the H22a is the standard output H motor, like the B16a is the standard B-series motor.
The B18c5 type-R motor is basiclly a tuned, bored, stroked B16a. So if you go B-series you are, like everyone else, going to buy the best one you can, and put the best parts you can into it. So you'll pay the extra money for the strongr honda parts, then you'll pay extra money for stronger aftermarket parts to replace what you just paid extra for.
that's dumb.
if you are going to go b-series, get a cheapey, then build it to beat a type-R, it'll be faster and lighter than the type-R, and cost less, and bolt in.
but i'd go H, the basic B puts out like 150, the basic H puts out like 200. for about the same money.
get the H.
with an H in my car, and ONLY weight reduction, intake, and exhaust, i am in the 12s.
92vx hatch, search "sissy" for weight reduction
91H22a with light flywheel, even stock pulleys and header!
vx rear wheels, kosi K1 15x7 ultralights with BFG Ge-force drag radials.

GET THE H. if you get a high output B, you'll just be paying more for the parts you're about to replace. If you are EVER going to do internal work on a honda, get the lowest output motor in the series, weather it be B, F, or H.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EGmikeH22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">use the H, its a STRONG motor, just think of it like this, the H22a is the standard output H motor, like the B16a is the standard B-series motor.
The B18c5 type-R motor is basiclly a tuned, bored, stroked B16a. So if you go B-series you are, like everyone else, going to buy the best one you can, and put the best parts you can into it. So you'll pay the extra money for the strongr honda parts, then you'll pay extra money for stronger aftermarket parts to replace what you just paid extra for.
that's dumb.
if you are going to go b-series, get a cheapey, then build it to beat a type-R, it'll be faster and lighter than the type-R, and cost less, and bolt in.
but i'd go H, the basic B puts out like 150, the basic H puts out like 200. for about the same money.
get the H.
with an H in my car, and ONLY weight reduction, intake, and exhaust, i am in the 12s.
92vx hatch, search "sissy" for weight reduction
91H22a with light flywheel, even stock pulleys and header!
vx rear wheels, kosi K1 15x7 ultralights with BFG Ge-force drag radials.

GET THE H. if you get a high output B, you'll just be paying more for the parts you're about to replace. If you are EVER going to do internal work on a honda, get the lowest output motor in the series, weather it be B, F, or H.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah I remember when I had my 240sx and EVERYONE was riding SR20 nuts. I instead went for the RB series motor. It was the H22 equivalent. It will affect handling...too heavy blah blah blah. It was also more work than a SR20 (H22 is the same). In the end the RB20 only weighed a nomial amount more than the stock motor (KA24) and the handling was unaffected. ANd I was happier for choosing the less taken route. Now everyone and their momma is riding in an RB
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Thanks guys for all of your help. I have decided to stick with the DX, no i'm just kidding i'm gonna go with the H22. Thanks for all the advice again, Guys have helped alot.
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good choice. i think youll love it
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h22...soo heavy =/
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