spintboy

are these two totally different header or do they both have similarity?

some guy on H-T is trying to sell me this, i believe its the f1spec header





or
https://honda-tech.com/zero...age=1


thanks. an anybody got feedback on the either of the header?

suicide_shift

tell me whats wrong with these welds before i tell you

Dead CIVIC

iTrader: (1)

wow good point!!!
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spintboy

is that from the hytech replica or the f1spec?

suicide_shift

its from the link you posted <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spintboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is that from the hytech or the f1spec?</TD></TR></TABLE>

spintboy

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is this a smart of you saying don't buy it? and to be honest, i actaully don't know whats wrong with it. is it bad welding, cause i dont know much about welding.
or is it the rusts?


Modified by spintboy at 10:30 PM 11/9/2007

suicide_shift

thats not rust thats HAZ oxidation at the end of the gasoues cloud, the puddles are spaced so ******* far. those beads are bullshit......

my STICK welds are tighter than those tungsten welds

in a good weld you want penetration, no under cutting, even LEGS, a nice face, and a decent throat.

you want to form your puddles like a roll of dimes laid out, nice tight and even, now inspect those welds again

spintboy

damn. now i see what your talking about

suicide_shift

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ya i hate the fact that some companies dismiss that poor excuse for welding as alright becuasee some people dont know what to look for in a quality weld....they just know hey its been welded so it must be good

spintboy

thats exactly what i thought. im just surprise that nobody pointed it out in his thread.

suicide_shift

the mods get pissed if you do since they are paying sponsors......plus the mods around here are kind of on a power trip

suicide_shift

and if you can get this for cheap........dont pay for the coating and you can run 2 additional beads on that header just incase.....

right on the toes on each side.......

spintboy

get it for cheap....? i was planning on paying the full amount for that header. $350 plus
$30 for the exstension pipe or the f1spec for $300. not sure how the welding was done on that one though

suicide_shift

not bad.......get a used one and you might be able to fab it yourself.......check out thw welding/fab section one here.....get some tips and tricks from the dudes who fab their own turbo mani's

spintboy

thanks man. you been alot of help. glad to see guys like you on h-t and not just a bunch of ****** who make smart comment just so there post could go up.
anyways, thanks again

spintboy

96dc2

The F1Spec is made in the same Taiwan factory has the Hytech and Rage headers.

Padawan

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Have you yet to read of a instance where the welds on this header have failed? This is not a sarcastic question, it's a legitimate inquiry, since this particular header (under various brand names) has been out for quite a while now, with many units sold.


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That's a bit of a generalisation, don't you think?

Bense

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Another comment like that and I'm gonna ban you

The welds on an exhaust header don't have to be that great on the outside. Everyone wants one of those stainless steel tig welded exhaust manifolds. But a mig welded carbon steel header would be just as sufficient.

Libertariat

x3 nothing wrong with those welds. I've never heard of anyone with an issue with that header. Nothing but good reviews.

crazyguy

nothing wrong with that welding.but it is just another 4-2-1 designed header to me... gives u a better ground clearance.. performace wise will be about the same

Padawan

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It isn't, and that's why this header has become so popular. Unlike most inexpensive, commercially available headers that are designed to essentially "bolt on", these headers were built without the constraint of fitting with the stock exhaust and cat length. They are therefore longer overall, and their performance is superior to that of the traditional designs.