R2D2

Please all the pro out there if u know anything thaat can help me out right now I will be very appreciated.
My situation now is.
I am currently running b16a2 engine in my EK.
and my question is ....I just reasonly bought a set of toda spec a cam shaft.
and installed. and the result is........my car got slower?
very slow actually.....I lost lot of low end power? ....is that normal?
need dyno tunning?

R2D2

ok this is what I had for my car set up 96 civic hatch

vafc, headport andpolish, toda spec a cam shaft.
and my car got kill by a stock USDM b16a motor. 98 civic hatch EK

I am mad

Kamin

yes you will loose massive low end
you need to have it tuned.
if you upgraded your valvetrain i would have the revlimiter extended too

all stock

96 ek? wouldn't the motor be a b16a3 in reality?

Kamin

no he swapped in an SI
odds are it had a SOHC engine to begin with, the b16a3 was only in the 94-96 del sol vtec. in 97 it was the b16a2 and then the b16a2 wasnt used again till 99 for the SI

all stock

so it's a USDM motor then...
i have a ek and i was looking for the jdm sir motor and for the easiest swap (that i wanted) i learned i had to get the 96+ jdm b16. because the distributor and what not is different, isn't it?

R2D2

hmmm
in that case I need to get the dyno test done asap.

yeah I am currently running the b16a JDM 98 spec motor

and my car run slow like hell..
SUCK


and I am running OBDII I guess.
and anyone have any suggestion about ECU UPGrade with my toda spec a cam set up?

R2D2

up ..
still need hlep

Kamin

1) not a dyno test
have it TUNED by a professional
2) consider an ecu upgrade


what else do you need?

R2D2

Yeah there is the problem I am facing now.

First, I live in a stupid small city that doesn't have a dyno, and a professional taht can tune my car(no one else better then me and my freinds ahahah).

Secondly, that I want to make sure . the cam is runnign the way is it before I spend anymoremoney on other upgrade, such as all u guy suggest a better ECU and DYNO test.

yeah , Ihave to solve this issue before I spend any more money I hate to spend any more money before I go anyfurther.

Just to let u guy know that the nearest place that provide dyno is 8 hour away from where I live, and what if I spend the extra 1000 dollar for the TOda ecu or after market ecu and my car still run like crap?

WOuldn't be a good thing to find out if the Cam suck?
I am goign to get my stock cam shaft in tonite and test run again and see if the cam I purchase .......got rid off or a bad cam toda a cam.

but thanks for all u guys help dou, very appreciated.

R2D2

Toda suck.
make my car so slow.

stevel

i doubt it. I'll chalk this up to user error!

just get it dyno TUNED, not tested. If you can't dyno it then you probably shouldn't bother with the cam. I would go with a p28 ecu chipped by kenji. He's on this board and does good work from what I've heard. Just make sure that all the codes remain. The Mugen program gets rid of all the engine codes so if you disconnect something it won't throw a code. No need to spend $1000 on an ecu program, that's ridiculous. Ask kenji, I'm sure it will be well below $500 for ecu and program.

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R2D2

so ..it sound like the cam ..should be running the way it should be now?
slow?
until I can get it tune and dyno right?

R2D2

yeah but I heard only the spec b and c will lost the massive of low end
but not the spec a ....
cause the spec a that I got right now....it seem to be ..only a bit bigget then the type R cam ...
why why???

stevel

hey, get it tuned! you're not gonna know unless you do.

s

all stock

damn, must of been expensive to be shipped over that new...