NOFX

This is so I can end up making a trim differences thread for the US 5th gen Civics. So help me help you.

Tell me some differences between different '92-'95 USDM Civic trim levels.

For example, "__ have power windows, while __ and __ have manual windows."

I already have access to the color codes, chassis codes and engine codes (along with transmissions available, and certain specs). So those aren't needed.

Give me some place to start on what accessories and options were different from trim to trim.

TIA

z6hatchboy

well, my 92 dx (hatch) has the black interior, however others tell me that they only have the grey (such as my friends 95 dx coupe). 92-93 have map's on the firewall and 94-95's are on the motor. The z6 v/c on 92-93 is just the "H" logo with honda below and the 94-95's are the "VTEC" labeled ones. All 92's are prewired for vtec regardless of what others say, and that was the only year. ex/si at least had the dash clocks, the dx's didnt, not sure of the lx, vx. One of the hatch models cx or vx didnt have the side moldings. The dx's dont't have a tach or any electric options. ex/si's deff/ have all options and sunroof. I'll post more if i can think of/find anymore.

z6hatchboy

http://hondaswap.com/reference...29097/

NOFX

I can get all color information.

I'm looking for similar stuff to the differences listed in this chart: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/2055230

I'm going to make my own chart, I just want a place to start.

Just tell me some things that are different. You don't even have to tell me what comes with what. Just tell me some things that are different. I don't even need details.

"Power steering"
"Rear disk"
"moonroof"
"Rear wiper"

etc. Stuff like that. I can figure out for sure which trims are different which way (I have to check all the info anyway - I'm not going to trust word of mouth).

95vxtealhatch

cx and vx came with non power windows, and no side moulding. cx had no tach while vx came with a tach. vx had no dash clock, neither did cx.

NOFX

So... looks like some of the things I should check up on are the following:
- Interior Colors
- Exterior Colors
- Engines & Specs
- Weight
- Transmissions & Specs
- ABS
- Map Sensor Location (Firewall or Engine)
- Valve Cover Designs
- Pre-wired for VTEC ('92 only - unlikely I can confirm this through Honda)
- Dash Clock
- Side Molding
- Tachometer and Other Cluster Options
- Power Locks
- Power Windows
- Moonroof
- Rear Brakes (Disk or Drum)
- Fuel Tank Size (10 gal or 11.9 gal)
- Rear Wiper/Washer
- Cargo Cover
- Power Mirrors
- Front Sway Bar
- Rear Sway Bar
- Air Conditioning
- Radios
- Wheels
- Power Steering
- Cruise Control
- Front Disk Brake Size
- Painted/Unpainted Trim (Mirrors, Side Molding, Handles, License Plate Garnish)
- Hub Caps
- Side Passenger Mirror (Absent or Present)
- MPG Optimizing Shift Light
- Pleather Seating
- Rear Diffuser (Under Car)
- Rear Speakers
- CD Player (Colors)
- CD Changer
- Front Tweeters
- Front Ashtray
- Engine Heater
- Security System
- Vanity Oil Cap
- Vanity Battery Tie Down
- Fog Lights
- Car Cover
- Mudguards
- Moonroof Visor
- Full/Half Nose Mask
- Spoilers (Coupes and Sedans)
- Steering Wheel Cover
- Wheel Locks
- Armrest/Delete
- Floor Mat
- Cargo Net
- Vanity Shift ****
- Cigarette Lighter Protector
- Audio Console
- Antenna
- Antenna Block Off
- Steering Wheel Tilt

When I start the chart I'll go over every trim in every body style for every year.

Can anyone think of any other options or differences?


Modified by NOFX at 11:38 PM 5/4/2008

NOFX

*BUMP*

MonkeyMagic

lol are you serious? i think theres a couple floating around already

hatches:
si's got everything
dx had nothing
vx had less of nothing
cx had absolutely nothing

sedans:
ex got the good motor and everything
dx got a shitty motor, but everything
dx w/o options had nothing

coupes:
werent offered when the civic showed up in 92, believe they were
trim levels- see sedan

ex/si: 1.6l, larger brakes, rear disks, sunroofs, power steering, a/c, availabe auto. also had painted trim (mirrors, sidemouldings, handles, tag frame,etc) 14: wheels and hub caps. man trans w/ best gearing for accel, came with a tach AND cruise control, hatches had rear wiper

dx: hatch, coupe, sedan, 1.5l, auto came with a/c p/s, manual you might have had a/c but chances are you got nothing, no power nothing, no sunroof. no extra paint 13' steel wheels, no hubcaps. radio was optional in some IIRC. shitty gearing. no tach, no cruise, but did have rear wiper

cx.. hatch, didn't even have a pass side mirror, the dealer laughed if you wanted a/c or a radio. shitty trans was geared to the moon. 8 valve motor, weak IIRC didn't have sidemouldings either did have a tach with "mpg optimizing shift light" shitty pleather interior

vx.. hatch, vtec-e, didn't have ****, dont think it had sidemouldings either, rear diffuser, stylish lightweight 13" wheels IIRC had a tach

all i can remember off the top
but IN ALL seriousness... most everythin was an option back then... and some of them were packaged options so your list is gonna be more like a rubix cube. these are the basics that everyone cared about

NOFX

I've been asked to make one for fifth gens several times actually.

I know all the trim levels.

Click the link in my sig to see what I'm talking about.

MonkeyMagic

just read the one you have for the 6th gens.. thats freakin awesome



wish i could help but thats all i've got.. good luck

EGhatchguy

I own a 95 Si hatch and they didn't come with every option however they did have most options and more than any other hatches it ghas a tach as well as power moonroof and mirrors but as far as I know all hatches including the Si got manual locks and windows oh and I don't think all hatches had rear speakers but mine does .. hope that helps

EGhatchguy

also in 92 and 93 the front grills were black but in 94 and 95 the 2 smaller side grills came painted from the factory

NOFX

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MonkeyMagic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just read the one you have for the 6th gens.. thats freakin awesome



wish i could help but thats all i've got.. good luck</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks.

I try to go all out if I'm going to make a thread to help out. It's just easier if all factory options are all in one place.

Eventually I'll do the same for del Sols, but I think that's going to be (1) easier (fewer options) and (2) helpful to a smaller group of people. Might as well get the 5th gens done first. 6th gens were easy since I'm familiar with them. I still want to add a few more things to the 6th gen chart.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EGhatchguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">also in 92 and 93 the front grills were black but in 94 and 95 the 2 smaller side grills came painted from the factory</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hmm... that's odd. I'll have to check on that but it could be difficult to confirm now since so many cars have been repainted. The bumpers didn't come prepainted from the factory if ordered separate from the car IIRC.

JayofDestruction

CX/VX/DX (hatch) didn't have rear speakers like the SI

EKway2low

also some didnt come with steering height adjuster im not sure what years... some ones has to know here

RS-2

what else do you need?

-i have rear deck speakers, sunroof, power windows. ex tan interior. came with the optional audio consle.


i know that coupes had the pocket in the door panel like the ek's and hatchbacks did not, hoewever you can easily swap door panels if you want them.

after you get the civic/del sol gens down, you should get all the rest of the cars, 90-97 accords.

92-01 preludes, ef hatches and crx's. da integras, dc integra's. etc.

it would be sick if you can just pop up one of your threads and go through everything just incase someone on here wanted to build a new project.

EGhatchguy

actually the Si has the pocket in the door panel at least mine does I think it came on all of them

CivicSpoon

Different amount of wires for each O2 sensor is something that might be interesting to add. More specifically because most people are under the impression that all CX's have a 1-wire O2 sensor, when the truth is that the California version has a 4-wire (like mine).

hushypushy

The VX didn't come standard with a passenger side mirror, either. I'm attempting to trade for a 93 VX and the owner told me it didn't come with a passenger mirror.

Also, the VX has a wideband O2 sensor, but I've heard that's only for non-CA cars. Can anyone confirm?

NO hatches came with power windows in the US. Was it an option for the DX coupe? It was standard on EX coupes.

deschlong

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Back from the dead: NOFX have you made progress on this? I'll fill in your list above from off the top of my head.

Hatchbacks: (Note: Unless otherwise mentioned, below applies to all 92-95 Hatchbacks)

- Interior Colors: Available colours:

• "NH167L, Graphite Black": Si, DX, VX, CX;
• "NH178L, Excel Charcoal": DX, CX;
• "B44L, Palmy Blue" (only w/ white exterior): DX, CX, VX

- Exterior Colors: --- There's other good sources for this info

- Engines & Specs:

• D16Z6: Si;
• D15B7: DX, CX(CDM only);
• D15Z1: VX;
• D15B8: CX(USDM only)

- Weight: (USDM only)

• CX: 2094lbs
• VX: 2094lbs
• DX: 2178lbs
• Si: 2326lbs

- Transmissions & Specs: ---? There's good info out there on how Si tran case differs from DX/CDM CX, but not how DX/CDM CX differs from VX/USDM CX. Also, little info on eg., does VX transmission have smaller bearings than DX?
- ABS: 1994 Si Only (Optional)
- Map Sensor Location (Firewall or Engine):

• Firewall mounted: 92-93 DX;
• Throttlebody mounted: Si, CX, VX, 94-95 DX
• (Note: Engine harnesses differ to accommodate this change)

- Valve Cover Designs: ---? Some changed for 94-95, might be just VTEC and VTEC-E.
- Pre-wired for VTEC ('92 only - unlikely I can confirm this through Honda): Widely reported and likely true, though unverified by me.
- Dash Clock: Si, (and available as an option)
- Side Molding: Si, DX, some CX in Canada (possibly dealer-installed)
- Tachometer and Other Cluster Options:

• Tach: Si (7200 redline), VX (6000 redline); none in DX or CX (these received large temp (left) and fuel (right) gauges on either side of the speedo)
• Cruise control light: Si
• Upshift Light: VX, CX(USDM only)
• Label for "Unleaded Fuel Only" by fuel gauge: All USDM vehicles, No CDM vehicles
• ABS Light: Si w/ABS
• SRS Light: w/ SRS, otherwise covered.

- Power Locks: None
- Power Windows: None
- Moonroof: Si
- Rear Brakes (Disk or Drum):

• Disk: Si;
• Drum: DX, CX, VX

- Fuel Tank Size (10 gal or 11.9 gal):

• 11.9: Si, DX, CX(CDM only);
• 10: VX, CX(USDM only)

- Rear Wiper/Washer: Si, DX, some CDM CX
- Cargo Cover: Si, DX
- Power Mirrors: Si (possibly an option on DX?)
- Front Sway Bar: Si
- Rear Sway Bar: None
- Air Conditioning:

• None as standard (available as an option)
• Componentry compatible with R12: 92, Most 93
• Componentry compatible with R134a: Some 93, 94-95
• 2-wire Thermostat: 92-93 w/R-12
• 3-wire Thermostat: 93-95 w/R134a
• Different stickers identifying refrigerant in USDM vs. CDM

- Radios: likely optional on CX, VX
- Wheels:

• -13" Steel: 92-95 CX, DX
• -13" Lightweight Aluminum Alloy: 92-95 VX
• -14" Steel: 92-95 Si

- Power Steering: Si, DX, CDM CX w/ Auto Trans
- Cruise Control: Si
- Front Disk Brake Size: ALL THE SAME!! (except Si w/ABS)
- Painted/Unpainted Trim (Mirrors, Side Molding, Handles, License Plate Garnish)

• Body-coloured Door Mirrors: 93-95 Si
• Body-coloured Door Handles: Si
• Side Molding: Black: Si, DX; None: CX, VX (Available as an option, CDM only.)

- Hub Caps
- Side Passenger Mirror (Absent or Present):

• Present: Si, DX, some CDM (& USDM?) CX & VX (likely a dealer option);
• Absent: CX, VX

- MPG Optimizing Shift Light: VX, CX(USDM only, excluding some years in California)
- Pleather Seating: Only available on 92 CX, VX
- Rear Diffuser (Under Car): VX
- Rear Speakers: 94-95 Si standard, and available as an option
- CD Player (Colors): None?
- CD Changer: None?
- Front Tweeters: None (available as an option)
- Front Ashtray: All
- Engine Heater: None (available as an option)
- Security System: None (available as an option)
- Vanity Oil Cap: None (available as an option)
- Vanity Battery Tie Down: None (available as an option)
- Fog Lights:

• None. (94-95 available as an option)
• Pre-wired for Fog Lights: 94-95 CX, VX, DX, Si

- Car Cover: None (available as an option)
- Mudguards: None (available as an option)
- Moonroof Visor: None (available as an option)
- Full/Half Nose Mask: None (available as an option)
- Spoilers:

• Front lip: VX (Note: NO FRONT LIP SPOILER ON Si!)
• Rear lip: None.

- Steering Wheel Cover: Available as an option: Cover or Leather.
- Wheel Locks: Available as an option.
- Armrest: Available as an option.
- Floor Mat: Available as an option; different styles for CDM vs. USDM
- Cargo Net: None
- Vanity Shift ****: Available as an option.
- Cigarette Lighter Protector: None.
- Audio Console: Available as an option.
- Antenna: (Probably those w/ radio)
- Antenna Block Off: (Probably those w/o radio)
- Steering Wheel Tilt: Si, DX
- Wheel Locks: Available as an option.
- Gold Package: Available as an option; CDM only.
- Honda Ski Carrier: Available as an option; CDM only.
- Thule Roof Carrier System: Available as an option; CDM only.

Additional details:

- Exterior -
Rear Window Glass Finger-lift: 94-95 CX, VX, DX, Si
Door Trim: DX, Si
Body-coloured Front Air Dams: 94-95 CX, VX, DX, Si
Internal bumper grille cover: VX (P/N 71120-SR3-000)
Aluminum A/C Mount: VX
Aluminum Alternator Mount: VX
Oil Cooler: VX

- Interior -
Trunk Light: Si
Trunk Mat with Finished Trim Edge: Si, DX, some VX? some CX?
Plastic Laminate Trunk Liner Support Board (NOT Cardboard): VX (P/N 84521-SR3-A10)
Door "Map" Pockets: 92-95 Si
Holyshit Handles, 1 ONLY in Front, "solid handle": CX, VX
Holyshit Handles, 3 Front & Rear, "solid handle" : DX
Holyshit Handles, 2 Rear, "solid handle", 1 Passenger, "flexible handle": Si
Vanity Mirror, Driver & Passenger: 93-95 Si
Vanity Mirror, Passenger ONLY: 92 Si, 92-95 DX(?)
Large-style Dome Light: Si
Upgraded Seat Fabric w/ matching Door Panel Fabric: Si
"Map" Pocket Behind Front Passenger Seat: DX, Si
Foot Rest: Si
Intermittent Wipers: CX(CDM Only), DX, Si
Steering Wheel w/ Cruise Control but No Airbag: Some 92 Si(CDM)
'More' Sound Insulation: 92-95 DX, Si
Driver SRS: ALL USDM, 93-95 CDM Si, Some CDM 92 Si, Some 93-95 CDM DX, VX, CX
Passenger SRS: ALL USDM 94-95 Si, DX, VX, CX; Some CDM Si, DX
Glove Compartment:

• Style 1: 92-93;
• Style 2: 94-95
• (Note: Possibly changed to accommodate passenger SRS. Link: http://www.e-hatch.com/images/moto/glovebox.jpg )

Fuel Filter:

• 92-94 Si, DX, VX, CX: 16010-SM4-506
• 95 Si, DX, VX, CX: 16010-ST5-931

Dash Switches:

• Grey with speckled silver: 92-93
• Uniform grey: 94-95

Climate Control Bezel

• Smooth: 92-93
• Textured and slightly darker: 94-95

IAT sensor plugs:

• White: 92-93
• Grey: 94-95

O2 Sensor

• 5-wire: VX (USDM Fed, 92 Calif, and CDM only)
• 4-wire: Si, DX, CX(CDM and Calif? only), VX(93-95 Calif only)
• 1-wire: CX(USDM 92-95 Fed, 92 Calif only)
• Note: Above may be same # of wires, but different P/Ns

- Other -

Accessory instructions available here: http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...995/index.html

Credit for some info to 94EG8, and others mentioned in this list.

batallic

ex coupe here in canada got power mirrors, power sunroof, no power locks or windows, drums in the rear

deschlong

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^^ aka, Si coupe