GumballNA

ok... i have a 97 DX D16y7 non-vtec. i want to do a swap with i think the B18a2 (i think) the SI engine. ok.. now i want to save enough money for most everything at once... instead one at time. i know i want a greddy turbo kit. umm i want the VTEC chip that utilizes the vtec quicker..(from what i heard) i also need to know a really good cat back for that engine with turbo... and about how much money im looking at spending. and also 700 for the swap... cuz i dunt want to mess it up? so i need to know money wise... also new suspension.. lowered, new wheels 9 the lightest daily driven possible) with toyo tires. and i think thats it...

98civicEX

do us all a favor, watch fast and furious one more time tonight, and call it a day....you have no idea what you're getting yourslef into.

creasian

correct me if i'm wrong..there's really no telling how much you gonna spend, you think you wanna si engine until you sit inside a car with a prelude or type-r engine, maybe even stronger..a B20 vtec...then for the turbo, new fuel injection system(i think the turbo kit came with one, i'm not too sure), pistons and rods, maybe resleeve the blocks, bigger throttle body, port and polish the whole engine and the turbo light weight rims...spoon make some really light rims..and you need tires that has really good grib, apexi N1 is nice for turbo-charged honda...umm...if you want a fast honda, you're in the never ending land...boost are very addictive, the more you got, the more you want...i'm sure most of the people on HT spend more then 10 G just on the engine......i dont think this helps any since it dont have the price for anything....but you're gonna spend a whole lot, possibly 10G +++ for a good setup..just my opinion..later

flybert

Some good advice: stick around and learn more before you post more " (i think)" topics. This way you don't have guys mentioning the godforsaken movie, F&F.

oldB18EF

how sad

ZiggyStardust

Hey why dont you do us a favor and hang yourself!!!!!!!

dom93hatch

Hey man that was uncalled for.

creasian

do us a favor and start posting with the help of your brain...show some respect and

DOHCtorTHRUST

give this guy a break..... after all this a tech forum.....


was it a typo when you typed "b18a2"? did you mean b16a2?
if so find one that from a wrecked SI, that way you can get someone to pull the motor out with all the necessary parts for the swap.... it should be a peice of cake....the motor should run anywhere from $2500-$3000(considering that its a 99 or newer) if it cost more then that just for the motor pass on it, get a gsr... more torque at the same price...labor should be around 500-800 install.....

for the turbo, hold off on that thought....if you dont know much about the swap itself why jump? you gonna end up keeping the rice shops in business by ripping you off....

thats my 2 cent....

stockegsix

c'mon yall, theres no reason to make fun of this guy, i'm sure all of us went to a stage when we didnt know jack about hondas...

dude i'd say save up for the motor first, you can go for either jdm b16a(sencond gen), b16a3(del sol), b16a2( 99-00 civic si). i think between 2500-3000 dollars should get you the swap installed. just look around, do more research

about the turbo, worry about that later. that can always be added, just remember
TURBO = high maintenance. peace


92 cx
jdm b16a
jdm sirII tranny
jdm ITR header w/ heatshield
ericks racing P28 ecu
AEM CAI
carsound high flow cat, 2.25 piping and 00 si muffler
skunk2 coilovers ( teg rate) w/ integra shocks

stockegsix

heres what you should go

1. get motor
2. basic bolt-ons I/H/E
3. work on suspention
4. interior
5.brakes
just consentrate on these right now, once its all done, then its time to move on. IMO.

Foozball26

why would he do all those bolt ons just to turbo it later? for a rough estimate you're looking at about $8k - $10k and thats being a little conservative with labor. So if you don't have that I would wait until you do or you will have parts sitting in your house forever and may change your mind and loose money b/c you lost intrest b/c it is taking a long time to save for the next mod.

MugenSiR

huh? b18a2? i thought the Si engine is the b16a2....

GumballNA

well... **** all u flamers... im sorry i dunt know everything there is to know... but i know quite a bit.. just from reading. now i wasnt even going to do a swap... i wanted to build up my d16y7. but i found out thats just pointless i guess... but now everybody is saying this is pointless... so obviously most of u peeps r ******* morons.... and i can get my post polished for like 20bucks... cuz my friend duz it. so im not worried about that part. and i guess i read it wrong or they printed it wrong on the site... but on ardperformance.com it says b18A2... i might have read it wrong... either way.... the 99-00 si engine. ok well ive come to the conclusion.. the day i wrote the first post... that ill hold off on the turbo for a bit... till i can do it myself. but i am definately going to get an SI engine. dc sports headers. not sure what cat-back yet.... AEM intake.. crower cams, AEM fuel system, AEM pulleys,plugs and wires (not sure what wires r the best.. i got ractive for my d16 and one of them broke... so never ractive again. and i think thats it for now...

Mike D

Man you guys are ****** rough. Read Tom's forum regs. Pay close attention to the part that explains:

IF YOU DONT HAVE ANYTHING CONSTRUCTIVE TO SAY, DONT SAY ANYTHING!!!

everyone doesnt know a lot about cars. Its not like all you guys awoke one day overflowing with knowledge. So, give him advice, instead of saying stupid **** like " go hang yourself, or go watch the F&F...."


As for your questions, here is what you should expect to pay:

b16a2- 2500
greddy kit with fmic- 2200
suspenison- 1000
wheels + rubber- 1000
exhaust- 500
flywheel/clutch- 700-800

Sounds like you might be getting in over your head. I would do some more research before you make your deside on your final set-up. RESEARCH IS KEY

Mike D

twitchm80

dude KILL this post, man you need to READ more cause you have no idea whats going on, start on http://www.clubsi.com they are a little more friendly with noobs, casue u are not going ot get any answers here

AThiker

Just start reading as many posts as you can, I was at about the same point you were about a year and half ago. If you spend hundreds of hours reading posts, you will surprise yourself with how much knowledge you've gained after a year. I have to give a big thanks to all of learned to Honda-Tech

GumballNA

no i want DOHC not single. and no im not cancelling this post cuz of u flamers... i could care less about what u say. but first off... i think im just going to get the engine,ecu,tranny, intake,header,and exhaust.... first off... and work my way up with research.... yea i figured i would have to research anyways... cuz i wanna know exactly how turbo works with everything... and learn how to tune. but when i get the engine... do i need new suspension? and new mounts? and whats a better header ..... greddy or DC? for that engine.

autoEXturbo

your gonna spend alot, don't worry about the stuff, get a hp goal or a time slip goal and go from there. Talk to a local shop, they will be able to help out alot more than us since they will be doing the work. We can give advice on what to purchase and some guys on here can get you things for much cheaper, but talk to local shops to see the kind of work they do, what they are willing to touch. Also, I just droped 24k on my car, motor, turbo, tranny swap, suspension, slicks, there is alot to think about and look at where you live. If it's not a nice area or you don't have a garage, becareful about the things you do and the people you tell about the things your doing.

Adam.

Try not to do too much for your first car. You'll find yourself way over your head and dishing out alot of money to other people to fix what you've messed up.

I would say not to go turbo for your first project car. They tend to be extremely maintenance intensive and cost INeffective.

I would say swap first. Then start to learn everything you can. When I say everything I mean everything. Read manuals. Buy two copies of the Helms manual. Put one next to your crapper and the other in your car. Before you do anything, even putting on your intake, research it first.

Try and make friends with people at the local car enthusiast hangout. You'll find some of them are complete BS'ers, but you might find a friend in a mechanic and that will make your life 10000 times easier when you have a problem.

Don't just use these forums for all your information. One place that helped me immensley to learn how an engine works was http://www.howstuffworks.com

As for anything else. Drink a And remember:

DON'T WORK ON YOUR DAILY DRIVER. IF IT BREAKS AND YOU CAN'T GO TO WORK, YOU ARE SSSSSSSKREWED.

yaya

What you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard
At no point in your rambling incoherent response, were you close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.
Everyone is this room is now dumber for have listened to it.
I award you no points, and my god have mercy on your soul

I said….reading is good, can we start the story now?

Tofurky

umm... from your posts, it would seem different...

you can get your post polished?
post? huh? and what do polish people have to do with engine swaps?
and a b18a is the non-vtec integra motor.... b16a2 is what you're probably referring to...

ok........ umm... best of luck on your mods.... i'm sure you'll see great gains...
and by AEM fuel system, do you mean the fuel rail or EMS? cause well, nevermind....
i recommend NGK spark plugs & wires.... howerever... they are not a performance mod. you will not see power gains... you have neither a highly tuned n/a or turbo motor, so you would be replacing them for the sole purpose of replacing the old ones....

yaya

ruckus you go boy

GumballNA

first off... quote from yaya.. good movie... stupid response. well by AEM fuel system i meant the rail, filter, regulator, and probably accel injectors. umm as for sticking with my SOHC... i like the idea... but its so hard to get **** for it. the only turbo i found was the REVHARD turbo kit... which isnt really bad. "Lisa Kubo" uses it on her hatch. and i wish greddy made a kit for my d16y7... but they dont. only the d16y8 i guess. i heard from my friend that had turbonetics kit... but ended up getting the greddy one for his other daily driver... and likes greddy much more then the turbonetics. but then i would have to upgrade the pistons, rods, i want to upgrade my camshaft right now... but i cant cuz no place makes any for my engine... i would have to send it in to do so. i know cuz i talked to a guy thats fixing up his d16y7 engine... "pornstarR" that posts on here. and somebody said something about polishing the port on here.... saying i have to do that and ****... but im going to get it dun anyways. and i know i dunt know alot... but for not having the fastest car... or only have like 2 friends that race... i know a good amount from just reading online, and magazines...(and no not show magazines)

CunninLynguist

oem plugs are best.