stpcivicguy

Do you guyz think this is worth the money or B.S. or get better motor mounts?

Spoon Spec EK

It really works.

Combined with motors mounts = stiffer

Motor mounts overall offer a lot more stiffness.

But the engine damper is much easier to install.

TurbodCX

I personally think it is BS. I would just rather have a full set of poly mounts.

I mean look do you see some 10sec cars with this crap on them?

I have personally never seen one on a fast car. Only show crap.

Just My Opinion though. ( and we know everybody has one.)

Brian

Turbo E

poo. Urethane better.


Modified by Turbo E 604 at 9:03 PM 2/27/2004

stpcivicguy

U Track DRAG GUYZ what do you think?
Is it even worth your time to install?

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JSJ EG6

just another jdm bling. but it do look nice. but i rather have jimfab mounts or motor mount inserts.

dantastic

you would think the engine dampener would reduce the vibrations from the engine (like liquid filled mounts), but appearantly it makes the engine sit stiffer.

Spoon Spec EK

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Is it even worth your time to install?

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worth it if you got $ to burn.

kr

i dont think it is worth it i would rather spend some cash on some poly mounts.

But i think if you dont want to change your mounts then yes this is a good upgrade.
other then that it is just a show piece.

-Gambit-

does anybody that posted actually have the part in question? I would like to hear from people that have used it, and get there opinion

BigZ88

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this is what i thought it would do also.... are there adjustjments on them?

Ricey McRicerton

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this is what i thought it would do also.... are there adjustjments on them? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah you can set the preload on them.

stevel

i had one on my EK hatch. i loved it. I got it right when it came out. I have since sold the car. I had poly inserts in the 2 lower torque mounts on an older coupe and it shook the hell out of my dash. With this i just put the poly insert on the tranny mount and just this and the engine was just as stiff but I had ZERO dash rattle. It's good if you want the engine stiff and don't want to rattle the **** out of the whole interior. And it helps to cut down on wheel hop when launching.

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it does both. it cuts way down on vibrations (compared to poly) and keeps the engine from moving. works really well.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TurbodCX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I personally think it is BS. I would just rather have a full set of poly mounts.

I mean look do you see some 10sec cars with this crap on them?

I have personally never seen one on a fast car. Only show crap.

Just My Opinion though. ( and we know everybody has one.)

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have you ever tried it. probably not. Then your opinion is worthless.

Would you wanna drive a 10sec car daily on the street? Probably not. Cause they just have solid mounts.

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Is it even worth your time to install?

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absolutely. big

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But i think if you dont want to change your mounts then yes this is a good upgrade.
other then that it is just a show piece.

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damn, all these opinions and none of you guys even used it.

not a show piece at all.

this is why h-t blows sometimes. people give opinions and have no idea what they're talking about and other people actually listen.

And yes, like mentioned you can set preload to basically adjust how stiff you want it.

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Ricey McRicerton

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damn, all these opinions and none of you guys even used it.

this is why h-t blows sometimes. people give opinions and have no idea what they're talking about and other people actually listen.
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Thank you. I keep getting the same feeling around here. I have asked things only to be reassured that they worked, then find out myself it does not. Thanks for your firsthand experience. Would this one work on a D series EK or do they make one for the D?

stevel

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yeah, and then there's the other people that said they'd rather have poly mounts or inserts. Yeah, well I had just inserts before and man it was nice on a road course or the drag strip but it sucked daily driving it. The dash vibration annoyed the **** outta me. That's why I jumped on this when it came out. Use this with just the poly insert on the rear tranny mount and it's a sweet combo.

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not sure on that. alot of people asked me that. I had a b16 swap in my EK with the b16 style mount and it worked for that. It would not have worked with the b18 mount in an EK though. If the b16 mount is the same as the D series it would work.

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dantastic

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it does both. it cuts way down on vibrations (compared to poly) and keeps the engine from moving. works really well.


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ahh ok... i was just reading someone's post on how he just got one, and it made his steering wheel/cabin vibrate more.

Ricey McRicerton

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ahh ok... i was just reading someone's post on how he just got one, and it made his steering wheel/cabin vibrate more.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Of course its going to raise vibration some, but not as much as poly inserts. Poly inserts rattle EVERYTHING in the front of your car pretty much. The damper will raise that a bit over stock because it's stiffening your motor mounts too.

stevel

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ahh ok... i was just reading someone's post on how he just got one, and it made his steering wheel/cabin vibrate more.</TD></TR></TABLE>

it might do that if you give it too much preload. Tell him to back off on the preload to get a happy medium.

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Soccerking3000

well i also agree with you on everything you said and i think i will order one because i really don't want my car to fall apart because of vibrations, i don't want to deal with it it seems like an ingenious design and i think it would work

KOALA YUMMIES

Engine dampener... dampens engine movement. In turn this little device is supposed to reduce the movement of the engine, not the vibrations. If the engine is moving around power is not being used to the best it can be. I hardly doubt that this little mini bling shock absorber does anything, in fact it was being mocked in a Option magazine where they made one out of a rear window gas shock.

Just my opinion on it though.

stevel

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Of course its going to raise vibration some, but not as much as poly inserts. Poly inserts rattle EVERYTHING in the front of your car pretty much. The damper will raise that a bit over stock because it's stiffening your motor mounts too. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i dunno. if you adjust the preload right ( i had mine set pretty tight ) and I didn't notice ANY over stock at all. It's basically a shock absorber absorbing the vibration and keeping it from moving.

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stevel

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Dude, you have no idea what you're talking about. It keeps the engine from moving AND absorbs the vibrations instead of passing them into the cabin. It does BOTH!!

By the way, it's damper, not dampener. Two different things.

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more people talking out of there ***

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well, if you compared this damper to a rear window gas shock i could totally understand how what they had sucked. I can compress a window shock with my hands. This thing is really hard to compress and is pretty stiff. The application they grabbed it from explains why there's sucked.

Damn, with all the advocating I do of these things I should sell them. It just pisses me off when people offer up opinions and they have ZERO clue what they're talking about.

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Tyson

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seriously, i cant believe this thread went so long without someone stepping in and correcting it.

actually, id like to know who made the damper shown above. silver's? where to get in US? something like this is needed for ppl like me interested in road racing where rules dont allow modifying stock engine mounts, but you can add stay rods. whether this is a legal "stay rod" is another issue...



btw, my guess is that its not oil filled, but has a shock absorbant material inside like rubber or polyurethane since it only has to control energy in one direction. you guys should consider this before discounting it.

your username here

great thread...i've been wondering about these myself

stevel

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silver's? where to get in US? something like this is needed for ppl like me interested in road racing where rules dont allow modifying stock engine mounts, but you can add stay rods. whether this is a legal "stay rod" is another issue...
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http://www.jdmhondaparts.com sells the J's racing one.

http://www.aj-racing.com sells the Mr. Alex Torque Damper

http://www.silvers-racing.com is where the above one comes from. I don't see it anywhere on the site but have heard they do carry it if you call.

then there's http://www.kingsmart.com.hk/pr...yword

I had the Mr. Alex one that I got from A&J racing.

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btw, my guess is that its not oil filled, but has a shock absorbant material inside like rubber or polyurethane since it only has to control energy in one direction. you guys should consider this before discounting it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you're correct. it's got a really hard rubber bushing of sorts in there that absorbs the impact.

where did you see this pic? thread link plz!

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