ubercerealkiller

Ok my buddy has a 97 honda del sol s, a few weeks ago his dumbass was racing a prelude and at the same time he got a speeding ticket and he blew his engine somehow. thats not important, whats important is we also have an 89 crx hf, it has a d15b5 in it ( i believe ) and we need to take that engine and drop it in his del sol. we're planning on doing this tomr so i really need to know what we should expect to encounter. the crx runs perfectly fine its just been wrecked in the rear, its our "project" you could say. but we really need to get this motor in, and i just need to know if it will work.
thank you.
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3.3.3

well, for starters, the CRX engine is obd0 and the del sol is obd1or2 (not sure since its a 97)

that might be an issue. ssecond, the crx is a cable tranny and sol is a hydro. you will need either a conversion (HASport has one i believe) or get a hydro tranny.

cnyej1

I dont see why it wouldnt work.... it should be fairly straight forward..... may run into a problem with the OBD crap though....

cnyej1

Couldnt he still just use the tranny from the sol on the CRX motor?

ubercerealkiller

yah we were planning on using the del sol's transmission. if the obd crap is gonna be a problem could we just use the ecu from the crx?

btw thanks for helping yall.



Modified by 93accordrunner at 6:22 PM 8/3/2004

Crank

iTrader: (1)

d15b long block

nevamind

I believe you can drop in a d15b5 in a Del Sol, use the del sol tranny, ECU, and distributor and you might get away with OBD problem

ubercerealkiller

yah im pretty sure it will work, we just dont want more problems then we can handle.

UNDER PRESSURE

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HIStateEG6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I believe you can drop in a d15b5 in a Del Sol, use the del sol tranny, ECU, and distributor and you might get away with OBD problem</TD></TR></TABLE>

I second this statement.

cnyej1

Thats what I also thought..

pane93civhb

im sure u can do it what i would do is use the old delsol harness engine and car harness also i would use the intake manifold and distributor and tranny from the delsol to make all the wiring easier even the fuel rail would be a good idea.. that would make it a direct bolt in after u swap those parts as far as all the sensors and stuff go.. and when u get time in the future drop the d16z6 head on there and the compression will be higher and it will create more horse then the original.

ubercerealkiller

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pane93civhb &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and when u get time in the future drop the d16z6 head on there and the compression will be higher and it will create more horse then the original. </TD></TR></TABLE>

d16z6 only came in the 93-95 del sol Si's. In 96 the engines changed to the same models the newer ( at that time ) civics used. Plus this is a del sol S , not Si. S came with D16y7 which is his original engine, which is the same engine that came in the 96-00 civic Dx/Lx. Si came with D16Y8, which is the same as the 96-00 Civic EX. and plus just about everything from his old engine is fried.

Thanks for all your help guys. Gota head over there in about 45 minutes to get started, so thanks for the help.

TurboEH2

ur going to need to transplant all the obd-1 **** from the sol engine to the crx engine. the injectors, manifold, injectors, fuel rail, tranny, ecu, and distributor, engine harness (basically u cant use any of the plugs from the crx engine. so just pull the del slo engine and take off any plugs u see and swap em and itll be real easy w/o any wiring headaches. then it should be a pretty simple swap.

Del Sol SiR

iTrader: (2)

its OBD II. 96+... wiring is different, so make sure you don't add any of the OBD 0 stuff. Oh n' good luck

pane93civhb

no si... came with d16z6 or zc sohc vtec motors. until 95 at least that is what i have seen not to sure about the 96 and 97 though.

ABK

you could try using that HF short block as long as it got 4 vavle piston reliefs. I believe the 97 s del sol got a d series vtec motor (d16y8?). If his head is still fine (maybe?) try doing a mini swap. Then you won't really have that many obd II issues.

TurboEH2

damn i missed the 97 part. yeah it should be obd-2 then. and it is a S model he said so it should be a d15 non vtec right?

Happyman

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VTECschmetec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">damn i missed the 97 part. yeah it should be obd-2 then. and it is a S model he said so it should be a d15 non vtec right? </TD></TR></TABLE>

No. 96-97 del sol is obd2 just like any other honda. 96 and up is obd2. Anyway, its a d16y7 in his del sol which is sohc non-vtec.

Del Sol SiR

iTrader: (2)

S model = non vtec, Si model = VTEC sohc, VTEC model = VTEC dohc<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ABK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I believe the 97 s del sol got a d series vtec motor (d16y8?). </TD></TR></TABLE>

skip.two

just have to fix the confusion...

93-95 Del Sol S - D15B7 SOHC non-VTEC - OBD1
93-95 Del Sol Si - D16Z6 SOHC VTEC - OBD1
94-95 Del Sol VTEC - B16A3 DOHC VTEC - OBD1

96-97 Del Sol S - D16Y7 SOHC non-VTEC - OBD2a
96-97 Del Sol Si - D16Y8 SOHC VTEC - OBD2a
96-97 Del Sol VTEC - B16A2 DOHC VTEC - OBD2a

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86-91 - pre-OBD or OBD0
92-95 - OBD1
96+ - OBD2

pane93civhb

if its a 97 it should be a d16y7 non vtec i would think something like that not any 1.5 after 95 if im not mistaking..

cnyej1

Transfer all the obd2 stuff to the motor.. it'll be fine...

ABK

just trasfer the head if it the vavles will clear the pistons (some hf motors got 4 vavle releafs some don't) this way the motor will have enough power to actually move the car, and you will be able to run obd2.

or I bet you could find a d series (vtec or not) long block for like $100-150 at some shop
It takes me less then an hour to find a d series motor.

TurboEH2

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Happyman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

No. 96-97 del sol is obd2 just like any other honda. 96 and up is obd2. Anyway, its a d16y7 in his del sol which is sohc non-vtec. </TD></TR></TABLE>

did u not read what i wrote? as i said I MISSED THE 97 PART THEN IT IS OBD-2.

b16a2turbo

96-97 Del Sol VTEC - B16A2 DOHC VTEC - OBD2a

Don't mean to make clear the making clear but.... 96-97 Del Sol VTEC <U>B16A3</U> DOHC VTEC - OBD2a

B16A2 was in the 2000 Civic Si