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Old 07-13-2009, 08:32 AM
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alright i have a 96 civic ex coupe everything is in and wired. i had a b20 with b16 trans before the swap so i was already b series swaped. i changed over the tranny put in a obd2 gsr dizzy wired up the injectors i am running the obd2a to obd1 jumper harness and jdm b16 sir ecu. so here is the problem i have a bad ground or something that keeps shorting the 80a batt fuse under hood. i used a jumper wire to see if it would crank and it started for me right away and died now just cranks and turns but wont fire up. im gettin spark at the plugs and fuel at the rail and its not trowing any codes. please help im lost and hella fustrated
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[B]please guys i need some help
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ok so ive been workin on my car cleaned and checked all grounds double checked my wiring and i am wondering if when i changed the dizzy i messed up the timming. i still pop the battery fuse but when i jump that everything is good the car cranks then get some fuel and wants to start but doesnt. also when i give it gas while it cranking it seems to not do anything. anything will help please
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What do you do to cause the 80A fuse to blow?

What are you jumping to crank and start the engine and not blow the 80A fuse?

What color is the spark? Orange or bright white?

Do you measure battery voltage at the fuel injector connectors?

Have you checked the mechanical timing?
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the 80 amp battery fuse blows instanly when you bolt it in and by jumpin it i ment i have a jumper wire replaceing that fuse. the injector voltage is good. the timming was good till i pulled the dizzy out but nothin moved when i put the new one in. my friend is commin over now to help me check the timming
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You risk frying the wiring by jumping this large fuse. Are you saying that the 80A fuse blows even with the key OFF?
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did you cross your starter and alternator plugs?
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Yeah, check for damaged or burned alternator wires or under-hood fuse box.
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the fuse pops as soon as you hook up the battery so yeah when the key is of it pops and as far as the starter and alt wires i dont think they run far enough to cross them. i dont wanna fry my wiring but what would cause that to pop only the starter right?
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Default Re: ek obd1 b16a swap problems please help!!!

I've never been able to blow that 80amp fuse, not even the 40amps. You certainly did something while swapping your motors. double check and triple check your wiring and plugs.

do you have stereo wiring to the battery?

I know it sounds stupid, but i hope you're not crossing your power to your battery ground, vice-versa.
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Carefully inspect the alternator wires and the under-hood fuse box. One of those likely has an obvious short.
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word thanks for the replies this wirring **** is pissin me off
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it's possible to cross the starter/alt wires. I don't know how, but my brother did.
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all wires in alt look good i got the plug from the harness in and the ground on top same with the starter im out of fuses but im goin to go get some should i hook that up with battery disconected then put batt back on
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Pull out the under-hood fuse box and inspect it carefully. If it looks fine, you can pinpoint the short using a multimeter by checking for continuity to ground where it should not exist.
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Default Re: ek obd1 b16a swap problems please help!!!

inspect your starter wires.

and i know it sounds very dumb..but check to see if the battery is hooked up wrong.

"IF" you had the 80 amp fuse hooked up...what happens when you connect the battery? sparks?
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inspect your starter wires.

and i know it sounds very dumb..but check to see if the battery is hooked up wrong.

"IF" you had the 80 amp fuse hooked up...what happens when you connect the battery? sparks?
Starter wires: I don't think so because the starter motor is connected directly to the battery and the starter solenoid is protected by a downsteam fuse (#42). Fuse #41 is the 80A fuse.
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Default Re: ek obd1 b16a swap problems please help!!!

I hate to jump in the middle of this but I did a b16 swap in my 94 eg coupe everything went smoothly until I went to drive it. I'm getting noise from what sounds like the passenger side axle, I jacked the front end of the car up and spun the wheels at about 10-15 mph turning the wheels lock to lock and I didn't get any noise, I removed the axles disassembled them and everything looks fine. The axles I used are the ones that came with the motor and trans, could they possibly be the wrong a axles? I also have a 94 del sol with a b16 and just by looking at the axles they appear to be the same ones. Any ideas
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