SpeedDemonAaron

Ok, so I did a search and found a lot of junk that was really hard to decipher about what people were talking about with upgrading from drums to discs. I have a 1995 CX HB and want to do this along with upgrading the brakes in the front. What are my best options for doing this, what parts will I need (in entirety), and what can I expect to pay? Also, if there are better braking options that do involve going to 5-lugs, I'm down for doing that since this car isn't going to be strictly a drag racing car, it's going to be a track car so handling and braking are key.

I currently own an Acura Legend and some of the best brakes that Honda ever made were for this car (even better than the NSX's). The Legends that came with Type-II motors came with a 2-piston caliper that was actually beefier than the NSX ones and the rotor is almost 12" I believe up front. In the rear it was pretty small, but it's a drum/disc combo for the parking brake and regular brake. Do I need a drum/disc combo like this for my civic or can it be all disc. Would going with the Legend brakes be a possibility and what would I need?

Thanks, and please don't flame me like I see most of the time saying to search. I tried, and I'm serious about doing this and these boards wouldn't be around if people didn't talk about the same things over and over again .

92b16vx

Not sure about about the Legend brakes working, but you can directly swap the 94+ Integra front and rear brakes (with proper ebrake cables, and brakelines) onto your car, and if you use the USDM ITR, you can do the five lug.

SpeedDemonAaron

What about the Prelude brakes, because I know that the prelude front brakes are identical to the Legend front brakes except for that they use a smaller caliper? I believe though that the ITR probably has the same front rotor as the ITR, and if this is the case I would love having that big dual-piston caliper.

Where would I get the the proper e-brake cables and brakelines from though? Say I was going to go with the ITR setup, what parts exactly would I need off that car, can I just use the ITR brakelines and ebrake cable, does it all bolt right up? I'd just like to know before I start this project that I have all the parts and that there aren't going to be any suprises.

Does the ITR have a bigger rear brake than the IGSR? Could someone make a list of exactly what parts are needed for this, could actually be helpful for a FAQ or something, since I'd like to document all the stuff I do on my car to make it easier for people in the future.

Instead of changing out the front brakes for an ITR setup, is there a good aftermarket setup that will do the same or better for around the same ammount of money. I guess I just have no idea right now how much this whole things costs approximately?

Thanks for any help!

92b16vx

Read through this

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=152884

TouringAccord

http://www.fastbrakes.com

They have a front upgrade as well as a rear disc conversion for your car.

rice4life

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just did my conversion a couple a months ago. I used front and rear from a 94 ex coupe which is the same size as 94+ gsr. for the front, i used the whole hub and steering knuckle assemble including caliper and rotors. for the rear, i use the whole trailing arms assembly, including the lower control arm so i can use the rear sway bar also. honda dealer wanted $120 for both e-brake cable for a 93+ si hatch, so i got them form overnightautoparts. com for $58 for both cables. i used a ef 4-door sedan 15/16 master cylinder because it bolts right up to the ef booster. i have an eg booster and master cylinder form a 94 ex 4-door which is the same as gsr ones but it's a pain to remove the ef booster and run new brake line for the master cylinder. the ef master cylinder just bolt right up. i'm still using the stock portioning valve. i was thinking about getting the 11" oem kit from fastbrakes but i want to be able to use 15" wheels, so i dicided no to. the 10.2" brakes are working fine with no brake fades at all, i'll probably get some slotted rotors and better pads in the futer.

TouringAccord

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Correct me if I'm wrong but won't the 11" Fastbrakes kit work for 15" rims?

rice4life

iTrader: (3)

some will work, but most will not.

TouringAccord

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explain. I mean, as long as you don't use the four pot piston then you should be fine correct?

vtecb20coupe

i've been wondering if you can swap everything over from a 90-93 teg for the rear conversion. such as the entire rear conversion, brake lines, e-brake cable, master cylinder, prop valve, etc to a 92-95 civic?

92b16vx

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Nope, may be some parts, but not the whole thing.

rice4life

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i think 90-93 teg have different rear suspention geometry.

rice4life

iTrader: (3)

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explain. I mean, as long as you don't use the four pot piston then you should be fine correct?</TD></TR></TABLE>

the kit uses oem 11" rotors from prelude redrilled to fit 100x4 lug pattern. some wheels will not fit prelude with 11" rotors. it's also metioned on their website.

CivicVX94

check out the new honda mag with that mugen s2k on the cover, they have a full article on doing that a disc brake conversion on 92-95 civics

jeffk182

Would the easiest way to do a rear disc conversion on a 97 EK be to use all Si parts? (trailing arms, proportioning valve, e-brake line, etc) ?

TouringAccord

I didn't see that on their site. Would 2002-2004 Si rims fit? What about Rota Slips?

rice4life

iTrader: (3)

not sure about si rims, but the rota slip streams would probably fit.

vtecb20coupe

damn, i could have sworn i saw something here on the boards that said they used the 90-93 teg rear setup.

bloodhound

Front GSR swap=$200
Rear GSR swap=$250

Pretty direct bolt on.

May have repeated somebody, but trying to get in my posts for the day.

selasornayr

Yes, the SI rims will fit under the ITR/Prelude brake setup. If you don't want to shim the outer part of the caliper, you can use a 5mm spacer to clear the caliper. The same is true for ALL of the Honda 15" rims (SI (7 spoke and the 2002-2004 ones), GSR blades, fat fives, mesh, etc.)

I have the same setup on my 2000 EK, and I used GSR knuckles and trailing arms. Basically, I did everything myself by reading these threads:

General information:
https://honda-tech.com/zero...age=1

If you want to shim, this thread has pictures of exactly where... just scroll down:
https://honda-tech.com/zero...age=9

And if you didn't want to shim anything and wanted to use spacers, just like the guy in the first link (this is what I did), here's a thread about extended wheel studs:
https://honda-tech.com/zero...age=1

Anyway, every single question in this thread has been addressed in these three threads, so read away.

dantastic

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bloodhound &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Front GSR swap=$200
Rear GSR swap=$250

Pretty direct bolt on.

May have repeated somebody, but trying to get in my posts for the day.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i got my front gsr brakes from hmotorsonline.com for $75, and i got rear discs for $200 complete with prop valve, cables and lines. the only other thing i needed was the 15/16 MC, which i picked up for $60 @ pepboys

edger8cer

i read a reply that you wrote about integra brake swap onto a civic.
i have a question about the e-brake/parking brake.
i have a 94 civic hb with integra front and rear brakes. my e-brake/parking brake
doesnt hold/clamp down for sh*t.they are integra cables. ive tried adjusting them with the adjusting nut but even if i adjust all the way the cables dont hold.
do i need to use 92-95si cables instead? ive heard that using integra cables are ok but mine dont work. thanks in advance.