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Old 12-11-2004, 09:01 AM
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Default EG Hatch + ITR 22mm rear sway + Beaks kit = Subframe damage?

Hey,

I'm gonna try and get an itr rear sway with a beaks kit. Has anyone <U>actually</U> had subframe damage that was caused by the itr rear sway even though you were running a beaks kit?
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Default Re: EG Hatch + ITR 22mm rear sway + Beaks kit = Subframe damage? (litterbox)

i think the beaks kit reinforces the the subframe therefore preventing damage
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Default Re: EG Hatch + ITR 22mm rear sway + Beaks kit = Subframe damage? (litterbox)

There are a couple posts where someone had subframe damage even with the BSRK. The only full proof set up looks like the ones where the bar mounts to a subframe brace like the comptech.
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Default Re: EG Hatch + ITR 22mm rear sway + Beaks kit = Subframe damage? (_BEN_)

yep: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=724585

unfortuantely the pictures don't work anymore. but i have seen them and i remember Jackson posting them.

it really depends on how much work you're making the bar do. read: don't go lapping your car with stock like spring rates.
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Default Re: EG Hatch + ITR 22mm rear sway + Beaks kit = Subframe damage? (jwn7)

Springs will be H&R sports. The car is my daily driver.
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what is this BEAKS kit
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr.E.G. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what is this BEAKS kit</TD></TR></TABLE>
A beaks kit reinforces the subframe if you choose to install an OEM rear sway bar from a GSR or ITR. Basically it distributes the stress to a larger area that is put on the frame by the mounting points on the sway bar.
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http://www.beaksproducts.com
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i have the beaks kit with a itr 22mm rear sway bay on my EK. No probs yet. daily driven and abused.
beaks get a from me
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PyroProblem &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have the beaks kit with a itr 22mm rear sway bay on my EK. No probs yet. daily driven and abused.
beaks get a from me</TD></TR></TABLE>
How long have you been running it for?
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I personaly like the idea of the comptech sway/tie better. It looks much more solid, and distributes the force of the sway onto the tie bar, and then into the subframe ends...
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I think the reason why there are a few cases of sub-frame failure was because the installer just intalled it with a nut n the back side and no washer. With no washer on the backside the load would not be distributed as well withut one.
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I had the BSQ kit(still do) on my GSR with H&R sports for years with no problems. Mmmm maybe 100 autox events and 20 or 30 track weekends at Sebring on RA1s with zero issues, not to mention 100k street miles. Now it is running 550 lb rear springs so the strain on the bar mounts is much less, but it never gave any trouble. I have a GSR sedan now as a daily driver with ITR springs and LSD, Koni yellows, and a 23mm JDM bar and it is also trouble free, even when beating the **** out of it. *shrug*
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Default Re: Re: (nfn15037)

the gsr subframe is very different than the eg / ek subframe.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jwn7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the gsr subframe is very different than the eg / ek subframe.</TD></TR></TABLE>
meaning the eg/ek subframe is weaker?
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Default Re: EG Hatch + ITR 22mm rear sway + Beaks kit = Subframe damage? (litterbox)

none. and im using a jdm 23mm itr rear sway... no damage with oem shocks and with coilovers... year and a half so far no damage...

i have washers on all four rear backings not just on the front..

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jwn7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the gsr subframe is very different than the eg / ek subframe.</TD></TR></TABLE>Isn't the Ek rear more like the integra and the EG weaker. I could be wrong but I thought this was a more EG problem than EK.
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Default Re: Re: (4potnick)

no your wrong.
the ek has the sway bar mounting holes more towards the edge.
the dc2 and eg are the same in terms of sway bar mounting.
most cases i saw of sub frame tearing out was on the ek. but there was a fair amount of eg who had it rip out also.
ek subframe is thinner then the ones made for a sway bar like the CTR those are alot stronger
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Default Re: Re: (hayabusa160)

right.

both the eg and ek subframes is thinner than the integra's. that's all i meant by different.
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Default Re: EG Hatch + ITR 22mm rear sway + Beaks kit = Subframe damage? (litterbox)

here is another company that provides rear subframe braces http://www.a-spec-racing.com . I love mine I know it works because I roadrace my car
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