eg hatch with gsr swap
06-09-2004, 02:07 PM
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eg hatch with gsr swap
i got a eg hatch with a oo gsr swap. im running a virgin p28 ecu. i wanted to know what a GSR motor redlined at stock.. and if i should chip my p28.
i ran my car at the track last night and its fast but i hit the rev limiter soo fast since its a sohc vtec ecu.. what chip should i get and what should i have the redline at and where should i set the crossover at.. i have no internals its a bone stock gsr motor with a intake. im guessing like 4800-5200 for the crossover
i ran my car at the track last night and its fast but i hit the rev limiter soo fast since its a sohc vtec ecu.. what chip should i get and what should i have the redline at and where should i set the crossover at.. i have no internals its a bone stock gsr motor with a intake. im guessing like 4800-5200 for the crossover
06-09-2004, 02:28 PM
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i would never run a sohc vtec ecu in a dohc car. thats just...well dumb.
the right thing to do is to get it chipped and put a proigram like mugen, vision, skunk2 in it and then use it.
did u ever thingk that a sohc motor uses less gas then a dohc???
the right thing to do is to get it chipped and put a proigram like mugen, vision, skunk2 in it and then use it.
did u ever thingk that a sohc motor uses less gas then a dohc???
06-09-2004, 02:32 PM
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Do you mean you would never run a STOCK sohc vtec ecu, or a sohc vtec ecu period. I know plenty of people using a chipped p28 and im about to use one myself on a 2000 B16A2, and it works great. Just wondering
06-09-2004, 02:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93Civac »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do you mean you would never run a STOCK sohc vtec ecu, or a sohc vtec ecu period. I know plenty of people using a chipped p28 and im about to use one myself on a 2000 B16A2, and it works great. Just wondering</TD></TR></TABLE>
no, im saying i would never run a virgine (sp, yes i spelled it wrong) p28 in a dohc set-up.
no, im saying i would never run a virgine (sp, yes i spelled it wrong) p28 in a dohc set-up.
06-09-2004, 02:35 PM
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well i got a p28 and i have no choice thats the only ecu thats obd1 vtec that i can run right now. i got a p72 obd2 gsr ecu but i cant use that. all these ECU programs redline at like 9200rpms is that too high for a stock b18c1 does any 1 know where they redline stock at?
06-09-2004, 02:36 PM
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Re: eg hatch with gsr swap (civicrida3)
Don't just use a generic chip w/o tuning, but if you must run a chipped ECU by itself, get a chip that's specifically for your engine + mods. I'd contact Kenji, just do a user search for him and you'll find his info.
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06-09-2004, 02:43 PM
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Re: eg hatch with gsr swap (ABK)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ABK »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Get your ecu chipped for GSR program.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes, people have programs of stock GSRs. my friend burned me a program for a p75 and it run perfect with my b20. its being used in a p28...same processor as the other ECUs.
yes, people have programs of stock GSRs. my friend burned me a program for a p75 and it run perfect with my b20. its being used in a p28...same processor as the other ECUs.
06-09-2004, 02:45 PM
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any 1 know the stock redline on a gsr motor?
what can it take safely.. i wanna get this jun program chip or mugen 9 grand rev limit. but i wont go that high proably around 8400 ill shift maybe lower.
what can it take safely.. i wanna get this jun program chip or mugen 9 grand rev limit. but i wont go that high proably around 8400 ill shift maybe lower.
06-09-2004, 02:50 PM
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Re: (civicrida3)
I believe red line on a gsr motor is about 8200. I'm not sure it makes power all the way to red line tho. I feel a power loss around 7800 or so. Vtec is set at 5200 i believe.
06-09-2004, 06:43 PM
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Re: (civicrida3)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicrida3 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so i should still get a chip so i can have the fuel n stuff but just shift at like 8 grand..</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes. get it chipped and whoever chips it should have some programs that u can buy from them...
yes. get it chipped and whoever chips it should have some programs that u can buy from them...
06-09-2004, 06:53 PM
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***NEWSFLASH***
I don't know why nobody has even mentioned this yet, but what intake manifold are you running?
Stock GS-R?
Then get a stock 94-95 P72 ECU or else your engine will run like poo regardless of the program.
If you run the stock IM then get the stock GS-R ECU that utilizes them.
If you plan on ditching the IM for a Skunk2, etc. then also plan on dropping out of VTEC when shifting into the next gear unless you also get a nice B16A or Type R tranny too.
Honda designed the GS-R with a broader powerband with the dual butterfly IM, so they also gave the tranny longer legs. Changing the ECU program and IM without changing the tranny is silly IMO.
Either get the right P72 ECU, or ditch the IM and tranny.
I don't know why nobody has even mentioned this yet, but what intake manifold are you running?
Stock GS-R?
Then get a stock 94-95 P72 ECU or else your engine will run like poo regardless of the program.
If you run the stock IM then get the stock GS-R ECU that utilizes them.
If you plan on ditching the IM for a Skunk2, etc. then also plan on dropping out of VTEC when shifting into the next gear unless you also get a nice B16A or Type R tranny too.
Honda designed the GS-R with a broader powerband with the dual butterfly IM, so they also gave the tranny longer legs. Changing the ECU program and IM without changing the tranny is silly IMO.
Either get the right P72 ECU, or ditch the IM and tranny.
06-09-2004, 06:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C5-EH2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">***NEWSFLASH***
I don't know why nobody has even mentioned this yet, but what intake manifold are you running?
Stock GS-R?
Then get a stock 94-95 P72 ECU or else your engine will run like poo regardless of the program.
If you run the stock IM then get the stock GS-R ECU that utilizes them.
If you plan on ditching the IM for a Skunk2, etc. then also plan on dropping out of VTEC when shifting into the next gear unless you also get a nice B16A or Type R tranny too.
Honda designed the GS-R with a broader powerband with the dual butterfly IM, so they also gave the tranny longer legs. Changing the ECU program and IM without changing the tranny is silly IMO.
Either get the right P72 ECU, or ditch the IM and tranny.</TD></TR></TABLE>
agreed, i like my vtec at 4500, just feels right. People who chip a stock gsr, i think is dumb. It makes vtec engage like at 5500 or higher...i dont see the reasoning, you just lost 1g of decient powerband. Obviously its not going to pull at 4500 like it pulls above 6500, but its better then being out of Vtec.
I don't know why nobody has even mentioned this yet, but what intake manifold are you running?
Stock GS-R?
Then get a stock 94-95 P72 ECU or else your engine will run like poo regardless of the program.
If you run the stock IM then get the stock GS-R ECU that utilizes them.
If you plan on ditching the IM for a Skunk2, etc. then also plan on dropping out of VTEC when shifting into the next gear unless you also get a nice B16A or Type R tranny too.
Honda designed the GS-R with a broader powerband with the dual butterfly IM, so they also gave the tranny longer legs. Changing the ECU program and IM without changing the tranny is silly IMO.
Either get the right P72 ECU, or ditch the IM and tranny.</TD></TR></TABLE>
agreed, i like my vtec at 4500, just feels right. People who chip a stock gsr, i think is dumb. It makes vtec engage like at 5500 or higher...i dont see the reasoning, you just lost 1g of decient powerband. Obviously its not going to pull at 4500 like it pulls above 6500, but its better then being out of Vtec.
06-09-2004, 07:03 PM
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Re: eg hatch with gsr swap (civicrida3)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicrida3 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> i have no internals its a bone stock gsr motor with a intake. </TD></TR></TABLE>
then its not bone stock. but what is the difference between stock and bone stock. you're either stock or you aren't.
like B18C5-EH2 said if you don't have a computer that will open the secondary runners on the intake manifold it wont mater what program you run. because it wont be getting the air it needs. if you want to continue to run this ecu, then run some mickey mouse, jerry rigged, fly by nite RPM activation so they will open. that is if that even works
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then its not bone stock. but what is the difference between stock and bone stock. you're either stock or you aren't.
like B18C5-EH2 said if you don't have a computer that will open the secondary runners on the intake manifold it wont mater what program you run. because it wont be getting the air it needs. if you want to continue to run this ecu, then run some mickey mouse, jerry rigged, fly by nite RPM activation so they will open. that is if that even works
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Phil said hes going to keep an eye out for a P72 for you. The fuel and ignition curves on a virgin P28 are way off from the P72. I mean I got a Mugen chipped P28 in my B16A2 hatch and its fine. Vtec hits hard and pulls awesome. I'll keep and eye out for a P72 for you man. I'll have to go visit Jay with the 4 door GSR. Maybe he got one...
06-09-2004, 07:20 PM
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Re: eg hatch with gsr swap (Huggy Bear)
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then its not bone stock. but what is the difference between stock and bone stock. you're either stock or you aren't.
like B18C5-EH2 said if you don't have a computer that will open the secondary runners on the intake manifold it wont mater what program you run. because it wont be getting the air it needs. if you want to continue to run this ecu, then run some mickey mouse, jerry rigged, fly by nite RPM activation so they will open. that is if that even works
some say use the search feature for repetitive topics, i say for you try using the spell check feature. the button for it is on the same row as the URL, and img buttons</TD></TR></TABLE>
if u want to get smart, i use the quick reply.
then its not bone stock. but what is the difference between stock and bone stock. you're either stock or you aren't.
like B18C5-EH2 said if you don't have a computer that will open the secondary runners on the intake manifold it wont mater what program you run. because it wont be getting the air it needs. if you want to continue to run this ecu, then run some mickey mouse, jerry rigged, fly by nite RPM activation so they will open. that is if that even works
some say use the search feature for repetitive topics, i say for you try using the spell check feature. the button for it is on the same row as the URL, and img buttons</TD></TR></TABLE>
if u want to get smart, i use the quick reply.
06-09-2004, 07:58 PM
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Re: eg hatch with gsr swap (Huggy Bear)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Huggy Bear »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
like B18C5-EH2 said if you don't have a computer that will open the secondary runners on the intake manifold it wont mater what program you run.because it wont be getting the air it needs. </TD></TR></TABLE>
without the iab hooked up, it will remain open. so if he runs a chipped p28 with the stock dual butterfly intake manifold, it will run 100% safer than a virgin stock p28. lowend will suffer, but other than that, nothing else.
like B18C5-EH2 said if you don't have a computer that will open the secondary runners on the intake manifold it wont mater what program you run.because it wont be getting the air it needs. </TD></TR></TABLE>
without the iab hooked up, it will remain open. so if he runs a chipped p28 with the stock dual butterfly intake manifold, it will run 100% safer than a virgin stock p28. lowend will suffer, but other than that, nothing else.
06-09-2004, 08:09 PM
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Re: (B18C5-EH2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C5-EH2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you plan on ditching the IM for a Skunk2, etc. then also plan on dropping out of VTEC when shifting into the next gear unless you also get a nice B16A or Type R tranny too.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I had no idea that happened. Wow. Sucks for the GSR guys
I had no idea that happened. Wow. Sucks for the GSR guys
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aight well im getting a p72 for now... every 1 keep a eye out for 1 for me.. i found 1 but im trying to negotiate lil bit.. thanks for all the info guys... good luck at work beam!
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Re: eg hatch with gsr swap (b20boost)
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lolz
if u want to get smart, i use the quick reply.
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