mysuperslowej1

well i have a brake light short. it's not the switch, it's fully surpressed. the lights are staying on. so it's got to just need to be grounded. it doesn't blow fuses. nothing after market has been done to the car other than my stereo. no electrical mods are done just bolt ons. it's eg coupe.

edit;
and i meant to ask where the hub is for the ground for the brake lights. if there is one.

1siccrx

which brake light is staying on? and do they stay on when you are not pushing on the brake pedal?

mysuperslowej1

all 3 are on, and yes.

1siccrx

disconnect the brake pedal switch connector and see if that changes anything

mysuperslowej1

well it turns off then im pretty sure but ill double check tomorrow i put a new switch on it whixh disnt help it. and the pedal is pressing up against it completely. any ideas?

1siccrx

when you put the new switch on did you adjust the brake pedal properly because if it is out of spec it can cause the switch to contact and cause your lights to always be on

mysuperslowej1

well i didnt ever move the pedal should i didnt think it would get out of spec.

1siccrx

did the lights stay on even before you replaced the sensor? when did you first notice the lights staying on? what happened before they stayed on?

mysuperslowej1

yeah it was on thats why i changed it, and i noticed after i got home one day.

1siccrx

do the brake lights turn off after you turn the key off? or do they stay on

mysuperslowej1

they stay on

1siccrx

ok id try adjusting the pedal and seeing what happens cause what your problem is is that there is either one of 3 things going on either the switch is bad, the pedal is not adjusted properly or there is a short 2 power lets hope for one of the first 2 things

1siccrx

wait did you post that the switch is fully suppressed like all the way down?

1siccrx

is it fully supressed even when your not pushing on the brake pedal?

mysuperslowej1

yeah i took it out of it's little holding bracket and pressed it in by hand it's not turning off :/

mysuperslowej1

so i think i found the short. i put the fuse back in it's spot to try and trouble shoot then i remembered well when i open my trunk all the way open my radio doesn't turn off but you can't hear anything so i popped my trunk opened it all the way, brake lights turned off. so i'm like ok i probably blew a fuse. sure enough, so i look and the deck lid(trunk lid) hinges and on the drivers side hinge there is a group of wires that get smashed. tomorrow when it's light i'm going to try and move those wires from inbetween there and look for a open wire.

mysuperslowej1

this may be a dumb question but that sounds a great place to look right?

ElementzofR

the rubber grommet for the brake switch may have fallen out too.

mysuperslowej1

lol yes im aware it may have but it didn't. its gotta be the trunk thing.

mysuperslowej1

so i went out pulled the wiring apart spliced it all back together not the source :/

mysuperslowej1

bump still need help. maybe some other places to look i found a diagram of the wiring but i don't quite understand it.

1siccrx

When the brake lights are on pull the switch out does it turn the brake lights off?