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Old 02-19-2013, 06:58 PM
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Default Dyno of 94 Civic with 191-whp bolt-on USDM gsr motor

Hey guys I am Pork chops and here is a vid of my 94 civic from canada with my bolt on gsr on pump gas 93. Dyno pull 191whp and 136tq at Kphonex in miami FL1 week before I did 185 on dyno day after I had added new header and exhaust. Added the new tb 62mm before now a 65mm and after 1hour of tuning broke the 190whp+ range enjoy the vid.

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USDM B18c1 bolt-ons only
stock d16 injectors
stock internals
Ebay 3inch cat back N1 tip
Cat delete straight pipe
Ebay tri-y header
Velocity stack on short ram
Skunk 2 manifold
65mm Profesional Product tb
and 255 fuel pump on 93 pump gas
running off of a P28 tunned on chrome



Also did one with hood closed and open in the start of tuning process wanted to see the difference


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This thread is kind of pointless without any details.....just a dyno doesn't cut it
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^x2 can i get a list of you'r setup ? i have full bolt on's and skunk2 t1 cams(not installed yet) on a 94 gsr. i'd like to see what parts make 191 whp.
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Originally Posted by Deetz
This thread is kind of pointless without any details.....just a dyno doesn't cut it
Yes sir

USDM B18c1 bolt-ons only
stock d16 injectors
stock internals
Ebay 3inch cat back N1 tip
Cat delete straight pipe
Ebay tri-y header
Velocity stack on short ram
Skunk 2 manifold
65mm Profesional Product tb
and 255 fuel pump on 93 pump gas
running off of a P28 tunned on chrome

my bad on different forms it doesn't add the vid it would show up as a link
on my you tube page it shows up with all the details
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no list?
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no list?
got it up there now
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Fail...
got it up there now.But it was a major fail
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Ifyour setup is pushing 191 than i am pushing well over 200! Sorry but those numbers are highly inflated. Looks more like a 160-170 hp setup tops.

D16 injectors?
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You used a Dynojet. They're well known for running 10-12% higher than other dynos. Realistically, you're more in the 165-170ish range.
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Ifyour setup is pushing 191 than i am pushing well over 200! Sorry but those numbers are highly inflated. Looks more like a 160-170 hp setup tops.

D16 injectors?
I highly dought 191whp even with one hell of a tune is realistic. a genours reading dyno is tho or you have more done than you'r letting on.
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You used a Dynojet. They're well known for running 10-12% higher than other dynos. Realistically, you're more in the 165-170ish range.
dynojet seems to be the industry standard. dynapaks are known to be higher than most because they read from the hub. as with any dyno, improper calibration, maintenance, etc., can skew the numbers dramatically. ie: dyno'd my rsx when i first got it with nothing but a cai and made something like 145whp on a dynojet. no way that was even close to what it was really making.
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Most dyno sheets I've seen in the past have been on Mustang (or similar) dynos. They give a much more mathematically realistic number. There is a certain bit of math behind WHP and torque curves, and I've seen Dynojets give mathematically impossible curves. The guy's reaction when I showed him it was impossible was kind of funny though.
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You used a Dynojet. They're well known for running 10-12% higher than other dynos. Realistically, you're more in the 165-170ish range.
Thats bull **** has been tried at different dyno's car made 179whp and 131tq with 2.5in exhaust and 62mm throttle body a year ago at a different dyno.Added a 3in exhaust and new headers cause my old tri-y's got banged up and a velocity stack no new tune made 184.98.After that added a 65mm throttle bodie car pulled 186.58 then tuned it for all the new add on pulled 191whp 136 tq.I think your wrong about the dyno
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By the way I beat 2 different b20 vtech hatches when I was only making 179whp and they where in the 180+range and a 350z so I think my numbers are correct and your just a hater.J/s motor only has 81*** miles and came from a 4dr. was always a hard running motor my goal was to beat 180.1 that I a man claimed to have highest horse power gsr in the world and it was a jdm style motor.
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By the way I beat 2 different b20 vtech hatches when I was only making 179whp and they where in the 180+range and a 350z so I think my numbers are correct and your just a hater.Js
You have a quarter mile time?
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Considering he called me a "hater", I'm going to go with no.

OP, I'm going to be nice, since you're new around here. I've already tried being nice once, by gently pointing out that you were using a dyno that is KNOWN to read 10-15" high. That isn't something you can argue, it's just a known fact in the car world. Your numbers are cute, your car is slow, vtech makes phones and kid's toys (not loud noises), and your motor isn't long for this world. Beating a B20V isn't impressive. Let me know when you keep up with a 4.6L on the strip, or when you can stay on the rear bumper of a newer STi.

If you want to make competitive power without a snail or a blower, you'll need MAJOR valve train, block, and rotating assembly work. You're off to a good start, I'll give you that, but you aren't at the "puff out my chest and bang my fists" level yet.
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Considering he called me a "hater", I'm going to go with no.

OP, I'm going to be nice, since you're new around here. I've already tried being nice once, by gently pointing out that you were using a dyno that is KNOWN to read 10-15" high. That isn't something you can argue, it's just a known fact in the car world. Your numbers are cute, your car is slow, vtech makes phones and kid's toys (not loud noises), and your motor isn't long for this world. Beating a B20V isn't impressive. Let me know when you keep up with a 4.6L on the strip, or when you can stay on the rear bumper of a newer STi.

If you want to make competitive power without a snail or a blower, you'll need MAJOR valve train, block, and rotating assembly work. You're off to a good start, I'll give you that, but you aren't at the "puff out my chest and bang my fists" level yet.
I understand I had a turboed car already and I am building a b20 to be a 2.2l. the 350z was an hr version and it was at a track on a 1st and 20 meaning thats faster then a 4.6.I had a mustang but it's way cheaper to do a civic then one of those junks srry but it's the truth.I'am trying to see what I can get out of here on pump gas and with out internal work got some 750cc injectors here at my house waiting to go in with my ctr cams.Thank you for your generosity sir.But have had lots of haters following me saying these are fake numbers etc.....
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You have a quarter mile time?
no but on my old setup ran a 9.3 I think at the 1/8 with 2.2sec 60ft.Dying to go back and on some good tires hate china tires hard *** compond never hook
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You must be new here, we are all "haters".
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Originally Posted by 97lilcokmonster
By the way I beat 2 different b20 vtech hatches when I was only making 179whp and they where in the 180+range and a 350z so I think my numbers are correct and your just a hater.J/s motor only has 81*** miles and came from a 4dr. was always a hard running motor my goal was to beat 180.1 that I a man claimed to have highest horse power gsr in the world and it was a jdm style motor.
Just because you beat a 350 hr don't mean jack. My 98 gsr swap with I/H/E/IM and stock ecu in my 2000lbs. 94 hatch leaves 370s in the dust, pulls on e46's. I also can stay on the bumper of a locals rear mount turbo'd 350

Originally Posted by 97lilcokmonster
no but on my old setup ran a 9.3 I think at the 1/8 with 2.2sec 60ft.Dying to go back and on some good tires hate china tires hard *** compond never hook
My best was a 9.2 with a 1.9 60ft. Again stock ecu and bad dizzy. Not hating or trying to rain on your parade, it is just the fact sir! You set up is almost identical to mine less all your knock off parts and in all truth, I am lucky if I am pushing 165hp.
A gsr swapped hatch is a blast to drive and it does feel like a lot more power than a measly 160-170 but it all has to do with the weight of our hatches. Plain and simple. You should read some of the NA builds and you will see we are not hating, it just takes a lot more than bolt ons to get that close to the 200 hp mark. Cams and headwork are a must!!!
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Originally Posted by Deetz
This thread is kind of pointless without any details.....just a dyno doesn't cut it

Actually it's pointless even with all the details.
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You must be new here, we are all "haters".
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Actually it's pointless even with all the details.
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Op- think about it for a minute. How much weight does a wheel/tire add to the hub assembly? Add centrifical drag to the weight. Of course your #'s are higher w/o the wheels on as opposed to roller dyno #. Can't fool laws of physics...
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This is priceless. If only we could also travel through time to Hate on the body kits and rice when it was big just like silky did.


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