Dyno of 94 Civic with 191-whp bolt-on USDM gsr motor
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Dyno of 94 Civic with 191-whp bolt-on USDM gsr motor
Hey guys I am Pork chops and here is a vid of my 94 civic from canada with my bolt on gsr on pump gas 93. Dyno pull 191whp and 136tq at Kphonex in miami FL1 week before I did 185 on dyno day after I had added new header and exhaust. Added the new tb 62mm before now a 65mm and after 1hour of tuning broke the 190whp+ range enjoy the vid.
Mods:
USDM B18c1 bolt-ons only
stock d16 injectors
stock internals
Ebay 3inch cat back N1 tip
Cat delete straight pipe
Ebay tri-y header
Velocity stack on short ram
Skunk 2 manifold
65mm Profesional Product tb
and 255 fuel pump on 93 pump gas
running off of a P28 tunned on chrome
Also did one with hood closed and open in the start of tuning process wanted to see the difference
Mods:
USDM B18c1 bolt-ons only
stock d16 injectors
stock internals
Ebay 3inch cat back N1 tip
Cat delete straight pipe
Ebay tri-y header
Velocity stack on short ram
Skunk 2 manifold
65mm Profesional Product tb
and 255 fuel pump on 93 pump gas
running off of a P28 tunned on chrome
Also did one with hood closed and open in the start of tuning process wanted to see the difference
Last edited by 97lilcokmonster; 02-19-2013 at 07:39 PM.
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Re: 191whp bolt-on USDM gsr motor
^x2 can i get a list of you'r setup ? i have full bolt on's and skunk2 t1 cams(not installed yet) on a 94 gsr. i'd like to see what parts make 191 whp.
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USDM B18c1 bolt-ons only
stock d16 injectors
stock internals
Ebay 3inch cat back N1 tip
Cat delete straight pipe
Ebay tri-y header
Velocity stack on short ram
Skunk 2 manifold
65mm Profesional Product tb
and 255 fuel pump on 93 pump gas
running off of a P28 tunned on chrome
my bad on different forms it doesn't add the vid it would show up as a link
on my you tube page it shows up with all the details
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Re: Dyno of 94 Civic with 191-whp bolt-on USDM gsr motor
Ifyour setup is pushing 191 than i am pushing well over 200! Sorry but those numbers are highly inflated. Looks more like a 160-170 hp setup tops.
D16 injectors?
D16 injectors?
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Re: Dyno of 94 Civic with 191-whp bolt-on USDM gsr motor
You used a Dynojet. They're well known for running 10-12% higher than other dynos. Realistically, you're more in the 165-170ish range.
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I highly dought 191whp even with one hell of a tune is realistic. a genours reading dyno is tho or you have more done than you'r letting on.
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dynojet seems to be the industry standard. dynapaks are known to be higher than most because they read from the hub. as with any dyno, improper calibration, maintenance, etc., can skew the numbers dramatically. ie: dyno'd my rsx when i first got it with nothing but a cai and made something like 145whp on a dynojet. no way that was even close to what it was really making.
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Most dyno sheets I've seen in the past have been on Mustang (or similar) dynos. They give a much more mathematically realistic number. There is a certain bit of math behind WHP and torque curves, and I've seen Dynojets give mathematically impossible curves. The guy's reaction when I showed him it was impossible was kind of funny though.
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Thats bull **** has been tried at different dyno's car made 179whp and 131tq with 2.5in exhaust and 62mm throttle body a year ago at a different dyno.Added a 3in exhaust and new headers cause my old tri-y's got banged up and a velocity stack no new tune made 184.98.After that added a 65mm throttle bodie car pulled 186.58 then tuned it for all the new add on pulled 191whp 136 tq.I think your wrong about the dyno
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By the way I beat 2 different b20 vtech hatches when I was only making 179whp and they where in the 180+range and a 350z so I think my numbers are correct and your just a hater.J/s motor only has 81*** miles and came from a 4dr. was always a hard running motor my goal was to beat 180.1 that I a man claimed to have highest horse power gsr in the world and it was a jdm style motor.
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Re: Dyno of 94 Civic with 191-whp bolt-on USDM gsr motor
Considering he called me a "hater", I'm going to go with no.
OP, I'm going to be nice, since you're new around here. I've already tried being nice once, by gently pointing out that you were using a dyno that is KNOWN to read 10-15" high. That isn't something you can argue, it's just a known fact in the car world. Your numbers are cute, your car is slow, vtech makes phones and kid's toys (not loud noises), and your motor isn't long for this world. Beating a B20V isn't impressive. Let me know when you keep up with a 4.6L on the strip, or when you can stay on the rear bumper of a newer STi.
If you want to make competitive power without a snail or a blower, you'll need MAJOR valve train, block, and rotating assembly work. You're off to a good start, I'll give you that, but you aren't at the "puff out my chest and bang my fists" level yet.
OP, I'm going to be nice, since you're new around here. I've already tried being nice once, by gently pointing out that you were using a dyno that is KNOWN to read 10-15" high. That isn't something you can argue, it's just a known fact in the car world. Your numbers are cute, your car is slow, vtech makes phones and kid's toys (not loud noises), and your motor isn't long for this world. Beating a B20V isn't impressive. Let me know when you keep up with a 4.6L on the strip, or when you can stay on the rear bumper of a newer STi.
If you want to make competitive power without a snail or a blower, you'll need MAJOR valve train, block, and rotating assembly work. You're off to a good start, I'll give you that, but you aren't at the "puff out my chest and bang my fists" level yet.
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Considering he called me a "hater", I'm going to go with no.
OP, I'm going to be nice, since you're new around here. I've already tried being nice once, by gently pointing out that you were using a dyno that is KNOWN to read 10-15" high. That isn't something you can argue, it's just a known fact in the car world. Your numbers are cute, your car is slow, vtech makes phones and kid's toys (not loud noises), and your motor isn't long for this world. Beating a B20V isn't impressive. Let me know when you keep up with a 4.6L on the strip, or when you can stay on the rear bumper of a newer STi.
If you want to make competitive power without a snail or a blower, you'll need MAJOR valve train, block, and rotating assembly work. You're off to a good start, I'll give you that, but you aren't at the "puff out my chest and bang my fists" level yet.
OP, I'm going to be nice, since you're new around here. I've already tried being nice once, by gently pointing out that you were using a dyno that is KNOWN to read 10-15" high. That isn't something you can argue, it's just a known fact in the car world. Your numbers are cute, your car is slow, vtech makes phones and kid's toys (not loud noises), and your motor isn't long for this world. Beating a B20V isn't impressive. Let me know when you keep up with a 4.6L on the strip, or when you can stay on the rear bumper of a newer STi.
If you want to make competitive power without a snail or a blower, you'll need MAJOR valve train, block, and rotating assembly work. You're off to a good start, I'll give you that, but you aren't at the "puff out my chest and bang my fists" level yet.
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You must be new here, we are all "haters".
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By the way I beat 2 different b20 vtech hatches when I was only making 179whp and they where in the 180+range and a 350z so I think my numbers are correct and your just a hater.J/s motor only has 81*** miles and came from a 4dr. was always a hard running motor my goal was to beat 180.1 that I a man claimed to have highest horse power gsr in the world and it was a jdm style motor.
A gsr swapped hatch is a blast to drive and it does feel like a lot more power than a measly 160-170 but it all has to do with the weight of our hatches. Plain and simple. You should read some of the NA builds and you will see we are not hating, it just takes a lot more than bolt ons to get that close to the 200 hp mark. Cams and headwork are a must!!!
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Op- think about it for a minute. How much weight does a wheel/tire add to the hub assembly? Add centrifical drag to the weight. Of course your #'s are higher w/o the wheels on as opposed to roller dyno #. Can't fool laws of physics...
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