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Old 11-11-2011, 11:34 AM
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well two weeks ago i ran across a 94 civic hatch for $500 runs and everything new clutch and what not, anyways i have a few friends that are in to the honda thing me i have always been a dsm guy. i had a few friends come check out the car and then stuff started poppin off i guess it has jdm mirrors and center consel (Sp) its a clean little car along with getting out of dsm i ended up selling my partial built 4g63 for a complete gsr swap and b series turbo mani. then i had a friend say hey i have a intercooler and a turbo you can have if you come help me put this engine in my civic so parts started to flow lol. so i decided to take the money i got for my dsm and put it into this gsr anyone have any input? it would be much appreciated thank you


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suggestions.. hmmm. well If it's a stock engine, and i assume that it is, keep the power level at no more than 300hp if you want it to last awhile. How soon do you think you will boost it? Are you trying to do the motor swap and boost it at the same time?
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check out the build thread section. best suggestion you'll get..
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yeah im gonna swap and boost i at same time i found a guy on here with rods postons rings arp studs im gonna buy so... i already have a fuel pump kept my 1200cc injectors and a few other fuel things off my gsx.
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also when i look for stuff is it all gsr specific or can other b series stuff fit?
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The only thing different from the GSR to B16/ITR is the intake manifold/TB. They have a different bolt pattern on the head and rotor direction on the TB. Other than that all B series VTEC stuff is interchangable.
What turbo are you looking to run?
Old 11-11-2011, 11:48 AM
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i have a turbonetics 60-1?
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Ball bearing? That thing is going to hit pretty hard once you get past the lag. If you're looking to run around 300whp 8-9 pounds on the turbo will be more than enough. I am assuming external gate.
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yes its bb and external gate
im not gonna boost it till i get it built and hopeful if everything goes well ill have rods and stuff next week
i also have a b16 tranny if that makes any difference?
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Good deal. My buddies stock ITR was on a BB 60-1 and at 1 bar made 430whp...on a dynopak none the less, but it was impressive for a stock motor on a basic turbo. I made 340whp on 1 bar w/ a stock LSV with a 53 trim...so the 60 is a nice upgrade.
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im really not sure about this whole fwd thing lol gonna be a change of pace lol!
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i would show my dsm but i would hate to have people get mad lol we all know how honda and dsm people get along....
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No one will get mad now that you have switched to the good side Its going to be nice to not have to rebuild your motor every month though
You're going to have to get used to the lack of traction...trust me, it's addicting.
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haha you know dsms all to well not every month but atleast once a year... except the last one anyways so should i keep the b16 tranny scrap it what and what do i tune with? that should have been my first question i mean i cant run if i cant tune. just get aem like my dsm or is there other for cheaper?
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i would use a hondata s300.

http://www.hondata.com/s300.html
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i hear neptune aem and hondata all the time hmmmmm why gotta be much to choose from lol
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Keep the B16 tranny, best tranny IMO besides the ITR.
I always have run on crome pro gold. Its free.
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i thought the guy that made chrome bounced out?
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I honestly dont know. I have had crome on my ECU for 4 years now, upgraded to gold a couple years ago, and just retuned with it in August. As long as you have the software you're fine. If he did leave there just will be no new features or upgrades to add. Basic crome sucks IMO and has bugs so make sure you get the right software if you decide to use it. Neptune RTP would be my second choice if I had the cash for it.
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well after rods ect... i have like 2k left to spend on this hunk.... lol jk but i need rims and stuff to hey also someone told me hubs are different when i do a b swap i have to change them is that true?
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cuz i have tranny engine mounts ummm axles ecu thats it anything else im missing?
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You just have to use b series axles. hubs are the same unless you have a 5 lug
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thanks!
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Originally Posted by jjmose03
i thought the guy that made chrome bounced out?
<CROME> is no longer being actively developed. Doesn't stop people from selling the Gold licenses though. I'd go with Neptune RTP. Actually I did. Bluetooth is badass.
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ok thanks!
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