Tad

Ok well my throwout bearing just started squealing..
I guess it was bad all along,
just put in a d15b with y8 tranny,
shoulda got a new throwout bearing, but oh well too late now.

so anyways,
when I drop the tranny, do I have to completely remove the axles,
or is it possible to only remove the inner joints? and leave the outters connected to the hub.

thanks.

oh and is it safe to drive on it till I can swap it out?

t0p_sh0tta

Can't remove the inner without moving the outer.

hatchdrvr

yep

SkRiBLaH

uh..yea

rainforest

yeah you can keep them in the hubs if your good. if not you might want to take them out for more clearence if you are doing it on the ground. with a lift you can let them dangle (with them supported slightly) out of the way if the tranny is being dropped from the top.

Tad

ok.. so by "yep" and "yea" you mean yes you have to remove them, or yes I can leave the inners in??

about rainforests remark,
I dont have a lift, but can get the car high enough to have plenty of room to dangle the axles until the point where they cant bend anymore.

rainforest

Can't remove the inner without moving the outer.

thats not ture. you can if you disconnect the lca/balljoint from the knuckle and swing the
assembly on the tie outer tie rod end to the side you can.

Tad

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rainforest &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can't remove the inner without moving the outer.

thats not ture. you can if you disconnect the lca/balljoint from the knuckle and swing the
assembly on the tie outer tie rod end to the side you can.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ah ok,
i think i'll probly try that,

will there be troubles clearing the danglin axles when I pull the tranny tho?

rainforest

i have never had any trouble but i also have allways had a lift and tranny jack so i cant really be sure. sorry

Tad

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rainforest &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have never had any trouble but i also have allways had a lift and tranny jack so i cant really be sure. sorry</TD></TR></TABLE>

hmm, can I use a normal jack to get the tranny down?

Ricey McRicerton

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

hmm, can I use a normal jack to get the tranny down?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Its not that heavy. If you have a jack to hold it in place you can lift it up and set it down on the ground yourself with little effort.

eg6ajk

D-series trannies are fairly light, at about 75-80lbs you can lift it quite easily and mate it with the motor....

seperating knuckle from the LCA can get a little tricky

Urban Camo

i personally wouldnt try separating the axles i would just spend the extra 20 minutes pulling them out they might get in the way later and you might have to eventually do it anyways

beaterdriver

i say take the axels out, that would seem the easiest to me

Tad

hmm, I just realized I've got the y8 tranny filled with brand new syncromesh fluid..

dont really feel like losing that stuff...
i'll probly try and keep the inboard joints in the tranny, and remove the outers from the hubs.

CharcolF20Hatch

Trust me do it right and pull the axles out.

EE_Chris

If I'm reading correctly, you are going to disassemble the axle itself so as to leave the inner joint seated in the tranny so as to save 2 qts of syncho-mesh?

To get to the bearings INSIDE the tranny...you gotta seperate the 2 halfs which means you're gonna loose that fluid anyway.

So, remove the shock fork; unbolt lower ball joint; whack LCA with 10lb mini-sledge to seperate ball joint and LCA; PRY out axle from tranny while leaving it dangle from the knuckle.

jolt-tsp

Drain the syncromesh into a clean container, and then just fill'er back up when you're done (also make sure your friend doesn't dump a can of sunkist into your syncromesh while its out of the tranny). Leaving the axles in the tranny will be a pain to manuever. From my experiance, trying to skip steps to save time usually ends up costing more time later, but then again, maybe I just suck.

Tad

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EE_Chris &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If I'm reading correctly, you are going to disassemble the axle itself so as to leave the inner joint seated in the tranny so as to save 2 qts of syncho-mesh?

To get to the bearings INSIDE the tranny...you gotta seperate the 2 halfs which means you're gonna loose that fluid anyway.

So, remove the shock fork; unbolt lower ball joint; whack LCA with 10lb mini-sledge to seperate ball joint and LCA; PRY out axle from tranny while leaving it dangle from the knuckle.</TD></TR></TABLE>

no no no,
not dissasemble the axle, just leave one side in.

so you say that even if I pull both axles from the tranny, the fluid wont spill out??

if thats so i might just pull em.
as jolt said, I could just drain the fluid and put it back in.. sketchy tho, it could get dirty.

EE_Chris

To be clear - you're gonna either do one of 2 things:

1). Drain your newish synchro-mesh into a nice clean container and re-use.

2). Drain your newish synchro-mesh into whatever container and use new stuff.

You can't disassemble the tranny without removing the axles (I mean, I guess anything is possible, but damn if that wouldn't be awkward)...fluid leaks when axles are removed and even if it didn't, when you cracked open the tranny halfs, **** would leak everywhere.

Gotta drain....Gotta remove the axles.

Marauder

He's only changing the Throw Out Bearing, so just need to seperate the tranny from the engine and change it out. Make sure to use the white lithium grease on the shaft before putting in a new throw out bearing.

You will need to drain the fluid, if the tranny rotates enough to have fluid leak out of the axle openings. If you don't mind some fluid leaking out as you take the tranny out of the car, just leave the fluid in and deal with whatever fluid leaks out. Just make sure to top off the fluid when you put it back together.

If the axles will unbolt from the hub just fine, its easier to just unbolt them from there and slide them out of the tranny, no need to remove the axles completely from the car, just let them hang there. Its probably about the same amount of time either way to take the stuff apart, which ever way you decide to go.

Turbo E

dont forget to replace any seals you can see. main seal, axle seals, etc.

Tad

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Marauder &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
If the axles will unbolt from the hub just fine, its easier to just unbolt them from there and slide them out of the tranny, no need to remove the axles completely from the car, just let them hang there. Its probably about the same amount of time either way to take the stuff apart, which ever way you decide to go.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you mean unbolt the balljoint/shockfork, and leave the outer axle in, and remove the inner axle from tranny?

Ignitecivic

when i did my tranny and yeah it was my first time. all i did was just took the axle out of the tranny while the outer part still attached to the hub. i just tie the inner up so it wont get in my way.

edit: are u working alone? its better to work with one more guy or 2. it helps alot.

Marauder

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you mean unbolt the balljoint/shockfork, and leave the outer axle in, and remove the inner axle from tranny?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I was saying to just unbolt the axle from the hub and then slide the inner out of the tranny.

Do which ever way you want, but the only time I have seen a mechanic leave an axle in the hub is when the but is frozen on the axle and you can't get it free.