teamlosi

Hello everyone i bought my del sol si (d16z6) a couple of months back and i love the car. Im looking for some more horsepower, but dont know what to do. Ive heard from some friends or import shops around me to swap the engine to either a b18 or h22. Altough that sounds nice i dont have alot of money or at least dont want to spend alot. All i have on it right now is a aem short ram and msd ignition parts. It has 119,000 miles on it and runs strong everyday. So i guess what im asking should i turbo the d or swap it for something else. It has a automatic in it (yes i know it sucks). So should i swap in a manual trans first and go from there or swap a different engine with a manual? Thanks for your time.

b16_sol_707

I would sell it and buy a VTEC model. it comes with a m/t and a b16. it would probably end up saving you money in the long run.

rarrior23

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b16_sol_707 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would sell it and buy a VTEC model. it comes with a m/t and a b16. it would probably end up saving you money in the long run.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thought the only VTEC engine to ever go in to a Sol from factory was the Z6 or the Y8???

OP depending on how much money you want to spend, I'd swap out the SOHC and put an H22 in there, or if that's too spendy just swap out the trans and boost the D. Either way you'll be making a lot of power.


Modified by rarrior23 at 4:01 PM 8/13/2008

cvkid15

i have a greddy kit for cheap, its the easiest way to get some power to the single cams check my sig

sk8shorty012

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The Del Sol VTEC was avaliable in 95-97 and came with a B16A3.

turbojdmhatch

swap out the motor and get a b series. i would much rather have a b18 rather than a b16 since b16s seem to only make power through VTEC and that will make u drive around like a ricer since u will have to rev to 5500 to see any power

team_exceed

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbojdmhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">swap out the motor and get a b series. i would much rather have a b18 rather than a b16 since b16s seem to only make power through VTEC and that will make u drive around like a ricer since u will have to rev to 5500 to see any power </TD></TR></TABLE>

lol well now.. as true as that ultimately is, its got decent power leading up. i dont have any problems getting around town.. but i do seem to take it up quite a bit

evokidvii

boost the D16, cheap easy, reliable fun (gonna catch crap for that).

Or if you decide you dont want to mess with it, sell it to me.

NOFX

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Thought the only VTEC engine to every go in to a Sol from factory was the Z6 or the Y8???

OP depending on how much money you want to spend, I'd swap out the SOHC and put an H22 in there, or if that's too spendy just swap out the trans and boost the D. Either way you'll be making a lot of power.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Nope. The S comes with the D15B7 ('93-'95) and the D16Y7 ('96-'97). The Si comes with the D16Z6 ('93-'95) and the D16Y8 ('96-'97). The VTEC comes with the B16A3 ('94-'95) and the B16A2 ('96-'97).

Saying to sell the Si to get a VTEC is akin to saying "sell your 6G EX and get a 6G Si" though.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by teamlosi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hello everyone i bought my del sol si (d16z6) a couple of months back and i love the car. Im looking for some more horsepower, but dont know what to do. Ive heard from some friends or import shops around me to swap the engine to either a b18 or h22. Altough that sounds nice i dont have alot of money or at least dont want to spend alot. All i have on it right now is a aem short ram and msd ignition parts. It has 119,000 miles on it and runs strong everyday. So i guess what im asking should i turbo the d or swap it for something else. It has a automatic in it (yes i know it sucks). So should i swap in a manual trans first and go from there or swap a different engine with a manual? Thanks for your time.</TD></TR></TABLE>
First rule is that you have to pay to play.

Ideally you'll want a manual transmission. The turbo would probably be the cheapest route to power, but an engine swap still isn't a bad idea.

Save your pennies and until then just be happy you get great gas mileage.

(Oh, and send it to me before you send it to anyone else. )

NACvicSi

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sk8shorty012 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Del Sol VTEC was avaliable in 95-97 and came with a B16A3.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah that's why I had a 94 Del Sol Vtec with a B16A2.

Sell your Sol and just buy a manual. How much did you pay for it?

NOFX

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Yeah that's why I had a 94 Del Sol Vtec with a B16A2.

Sell your Sol and just buy a manual. How much did you pay for it?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I've always heard the older Sols had the A3, while the newer ones had the A2 (see post above yours).

eg2jr

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id say M/T swap and boost

sk8shorty012

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NACvicSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Yeah that's why I had a 94 Del Sol Vtec with a B16A2.
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Techincally, according to NOFX you had a B16A3. Just thought I'd be a bit of dick since it's seems to be a reoccuring theme around here.

NOFX

I'm not trying to be a dick. I have always heard that. I just figured maybe NACivicSi typoed (like I thought sk8shorty had with the years) or was remembering wrong or had a swap for whatever reason.

NACvicSi

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NOFX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I've always heard the older Sols had the A3, while the newer ones had the A2 (see post above yours).</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sk8shorty012 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Techincally, according to NOFX you had a B16A3. Just thought I'd be a bit of dick since it's seems to be a reoccuring theme around here.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No I said B16A2 on purpose. I was just being a bit of a dick. The A3's were in the 1st gen Del Sols and the A2's were the second.

devney

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No I said B16A2 on purpose. I was just being a bit of a dick. The A3's were in the 1st gen Del Sols and the A2's were the second. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm confused. You said you had a b16a2 in your 94 del sol? Now you're saying that the A3's came in the 1st gen Del Sols. Seems like you are saying two different things here. Unless I just don't understand what you're saying.

To my understanding, the B16a3's came in 94-95 Del Sol VTEC's and the B16a2's came in the 96-97's.

Edit: Unless you were just being a smart *** lol

obuhmyuh

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what a fcking waste, he already has a car.

first things first, ditch the auto and go with a manual, you'll regret it if you dont.

and yes del Sol's were made with b16a3 motors, they also have bigger front brakes, ABS, larger front sway bar, a rear sway bar, spoiler, and wider rims.

save up and boost that baby

rarrior23

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NOFX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Nope. The S comes with the D15B7 ('93-'95) and the D16Y7 ('96-'97). The Si comes with the D16Z6 ('93-'95) and the D16Y8 ('96-'97). The VTEC comes with the B16A3 ('94-'95) and the B16A2 ('96-'97). </TD></TR></TABLE>

Once again, your knowledge never ceases to amaze me


Modified by rarrior23 at 1:54 PM 8/13/2008

JdelMsolG

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b16_sol_707 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would sell it and buy a VTEC model. it comes with a m/t and a b16. it would probably end up saving you money in the long run.</TD></TR></TABLE>


haha yeah, OP good luck finding a vtec model that hasnt been abused.
There getting more and more rare every day.

and, NOFX is always right.
In this thread, that has not changed.

you'll be happier if you just go ahead and swap the trannies.
Once you have the feel for the manual transmission, then decide if you want to boost or swap.

More then likely you'll end up swapping down the road anyways. Just try to save some money because the gas is getting rediculous.

J. Funk

You should sell it, unless you like dick

Del Sol SiR

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by teamlosi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hello everyone i bought my del sol si (d16z6) a couple of months back and i love the car. Im looking for some more horsepower, but dont know what to do. Ive heard from some friends or import shops around me to swap the engine to either a b18 or h22. Altough that sounds nice i dont have alot of money or at least dont want to spend alot. All i have on it right now is a aem short ram and msd ignition parts. It has 119,000 miles on it and runs strong everyday. So i guess what im asking should i turbo the d or swap it for something else. It has a automatic in it (yes i know it sucks). So should i swap in a manual trans first and go from there or swap a different engine with a manual? Thanks for your time.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Any B series w/ auto trans

how much more hp are you looking for anyway? tq is better than hp on a del sol imo

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by obuhmyuh &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and yes del Sol's were made with b16a3 motors, they also have bigger front brakes, ABS, larger front sway bar, a rear sway bar, spoiler, and wider rims. </TD></TR></TABLE>

ABS was on 95+, 94 got lucky w/o ABS

NACvicSi

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Edit: Unless you were just being a smart *** lol</TD></TR></TABLE>



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haha yeah, OP good luck finding a vtec model that hasnt been abused.
There getting more and more rare every day.

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Yep, sold mine a few months back for $4700. Mint stock from the factory with all service records. Sold to the first person who called on the first day. I wish now I listed it for more, then again I only paid $3500 for it 6 months before.

b16_sol_707

I was saying sell his auto si and get a manual VTEC to help him save some cash in the long run...It would cost more to do the auto to manual conversion and buy a swap than it would to sell his and buy a Vtec. Especially if he's not doing the work himself. IDK about where you guys are at, but there's vtec models for sale all the time here and usually only about 1500 more than an Si.

NACvicSi

Vtec models are uber rare here. I had to drive to Ohio (9 hour drive) to get mine. I picked it up for $3500 from the original owners who were old and moving. Here they run around $6k.

I think he would save a lot of time/money/and effort for at least selling his and buying one with a manual. I had a guy trying to sell me a 93 with a B18B swap for $3700 with a bunch of extra goodies. The deals are out there. I'm still interested in how much the op paid for his.

teamlosi

When i was originally looking for a civic which was a couple of months ago i couldnt find anything i wanted. I lived 3 miles away from a honda dealer where i bought my del sol from. I looked everywhere for one with a dohc b16 or even one with a manual. But all those were more than about 2 to 300 miles away which i felt was a lil far, but even then i thought those were expensive at the time. I like my del sol and i will hopefully never sell it. So ive heard alot of replys of just swapping it to manual and boosting it. Which sounds pretty good. Im not a welder but i am looking to do most of the stuff myself. Which is a big benefit to me, i think. Theres one shop closest to me (richmond performance) and all of them think i need to put either a h22 or a b18 gsr in it. But then like a b18 is around prolly 3300 with lsd on the net. Which is just a lil too much in my case. Too be honest ive never really driven a fast car. Prolly the fastest ive been in is a mercedes diesel e320 with 355 ft lbs of torque. So maybe the d16z6 is enough for me. If i swap it to manual and boost it and over time get some internals to maybe i dunno around 300 horses will do. Im just looking for opinions, and any more would be grateful.