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Youngblood27 08-21-2010 03:59 PM

Do I need new struts before I put on my lowering springs?
 
I have Skunk2 lowering springs and i was wondering if the stock struts would go bad fast if I out them on? Should I get new struts to go with my springs?

95EG2 08-21-2010 04:29 PM

Re: Do I need new struts before I put on my lowering springs?
 
BUY NEW STRUTS... U WILL REGRET IT especially if they are original struts

300whpej 08-21-2010 04:45 PM

Re: Do I need new struts before I put on my lowering springs?
 
^not always. are you struts saggy/bouncy now? if not there shouldnt be a problem if you want a modest drop. ive been riding on my stock struts and lowering springs since january and no problems.

Youngblood27 08-21-2010 04:46 PM

Re: Do I need new struts before I put on my lowering springs?
 
alright thanks for the advice lol

Youngblood27 08-21-2010 04:47 PM

Re: Do I need new struts before I put on my lowering springs?
 
they are kinda how low is yours?

Duc_du 08-21-2010 04:52 PM

Re: Do I need new struts before I put on my lowering springs?
 
it will blow in matter of time. anything lower than 1 and half inch wont last very long

300whpej 08-21-2010 05:04 PM

Re: Do I need new struts before I put on my lowering springs?
 
im right at 1.5-1.75

lunareg 08-21-2010 05:35 PM

Re: Do I need new struts before I put on my lowering springs?
 
your basically adding extra stress to your shock and eventually it will give out. Faster than it would at stock height. Its along the lines of : push a baloon across a surface it will be fine, put your hand on top of it and push down it will pop much faster.

I rocked my eclipse on lowering springs and blues for a couple years and never had a problem and thats a much heavier car. There shouldnt really be any issues, but it wouldnt hurt to swap them while you everything apart.

95EG2 08-21-2010 05:53 PM

Re: Do I need new struts before I put on my lowering springs?
 

Originally Posted by 300whpej (Post 43354372)
^not always. are you struts saggy/bouncy now? if not there shouldnt be a problem if you want a modest drop. ive been riding on my stock struts and lowering springs since january and no problems.

my friends cb7 struts wasnt "saggy" or "bouncy" before he put his springs on.. his struts were blown in two weeks time

H23_del_soul 08-21-2010 08:03 PM

Re: Do I need new struts before I put on my lowering springs?
 
different things happen to different people, sometimes they blow out in a day, sometimes they last a few months, personally I would replace them now, but then again I don't half do things ;)

300whpej 08-21-2010 08:17 PM

Re: Do I need new struts before I put on my lowering springs?
 
its all about moderation. if you plan on slamming your car ~2+ inches, then yes they will blow faster. my car has done roughly 15k since january and no problems. then again i have common sense ;)

TOO MUCH TORQUE 08-21-2010 08:29 PM

Re: Do I need new struts before I put on my lowering springs?
 
do it right the first time or do it twice

in other words, buy shocks now. Koni yellows are excellent.

jonesEK 08-21-2010 09:24 PM

Re: Do I need new struts before I put on my lowering springs?
 
Ive been running stock shocks/struts for about 3 years now... Its alittle bouncy but Its alright.. Nothing too bad... Plan on buying some quality shocks and save them till ur stock ones fack up. Ive been meaning to get some but my ride quality isnt SOOO bad...

Duc_du 08-22-2010 02:13 AM

Re: Do I need new struts before I put on my lowering springs?
 
its better and cheaper if u do it all at once. why? if u not doing it urself u will be visiting the shop 2x, alignment 2x= a lot of money.

300whpej 08-22-2010 07:28 AM

Re: Do I need new struts before I put on my lowering springs?
 
shop fee's??? LOLOLOL i have 4 jack stands, an impact gun, friends and a domino's for a reason. alignment is the only thing ill have to pay for more than once, but my next alignment is gonna be after a legit coilover install.

jonesEK 08-22-2010 12:11 PM

Re: Do I need new struts before I put on my lowering springs?
 

Originally Posted by 300whpej (Post 43356997)
shop fee's??? LOLOLOL i have 4 jack stands, an impact gun, friends and a domino's for a reason. alignment is the only thing ill have to pay for more than once, but my next alignment is gonna be after a legit coilover install.

FTW!... seriously I was gonna install my coilover sleeves with no impact gun with a buddy.... this fool brought a compressor and all the air tools... what a relief..
but ya we were gonna do it the poor mans way (no not clipping the springs) and just do everything by hand

D Griff 08-22-2010 01:50 PM

Re: Do I need new struts before I put on my lowering springs?
 
Well, if you wait 6 months to a year, you would need another alignment anyway. Most places will give you another alignment free within 6 months or a year depending on how much you pay.

I rode on tein springs for 6-8 months with my tock shocks and was fine. They weren't blown at the end, I just bought konis. The negative is you will have to do it all over again eventually.

98civdx 08-22-2010 05:03 PM

Re: Do I need new struts before I put on my lowering springs?
 
One of the bigger things is spring rates, my friends dad was on tein stechs and stock shocks for a year and they were just fine..

lowering a car a inch with some what close to stock rates, the shocks will last a bit longer.

honda_sanchez21 08-22-2010 05:38 PM

Re: Do I need new struts before I put on my lowering springs?
 
yessssss

honda_sanchez21 08-22-2010 05:40 PM

Re: Do I need new struts before I put on my lowering springs?
 
you need to change them if I were you i would buy the ones that come for the lowering springs. its a smoother ride and last longer

CrAzE191st 08-22-2010 07:38 PM

Re: Do I need new struts before I put on my lowering springs?
 
i would change them, i bought my skunk2 lowering springs with the skunk2 shocks. I haven't installed them yet but I will definitely be installing them together and leaving my stock shocks and springs as spares

If you have stock shocks, it'll be fine but you'll definitely blow them out earlier than normal and you'll just have to end up doing/paying double labor to go back and install the new shocks, when you could have avoided the situation on the first install

Duc_du 08-22-2010 09:33 PM

Re: Do I need new struts before I put on my lowering springs?
 

Originally Posted by 300whpej (Post 43356997)
shop fee's??? LOLOLOL i have 4 jack stands, an impact gun, friends and a domino's for a reason. alignment is the only thing ill have to pay for more than once, but my next alignment is gonna be after a legit coilover install.

not everyone have the tools or the experience to do suspension. i paid 150 to get mine done and that is dirt cheap in seattle

my99ekcoupe 08-22-2010 10:07 PM

Re: Do I need new struts before I put on my lowering springs?
 

Originally Posted by Duc_du (Post 43354414)
it will blow in matter of time. anything lower than 1 and half inch wont last very long

Not always true. I'm tucking my 50R15 tires with stock struts front and back.. the ride is a bit rough but a lot better than most honda's acura's i been in. Been riding strong for a year now, just dont take your car off bumps going 18456 MPH lol..

Oh and my car on stock struts drives better than my friends eg who's about .5" higher with koni yellows

300whpej 08-23-2010 04:06 AM

Re: Do I need new struts before I put on my lowering springs?
 

Originally Posted by Duc_du (Post 43361897)
not everyone have the tools or the experience to do suspension. i paid 150 to get mine done and that is dirt cheap in seattle

:beer: agreed. my friend did about 70% of the work since he had done suspension before.

tercel95 08-23-2010 05:05 AM

Re: Do I need new struts before I put on my lowering springs?
 

Originally Posted by Duc_du (Post 43361897)
not everyone have the tools or the experience to do suspension. i paid 150 to get mine done and that is dirt cheap in seattle


Not to mention what to do if you break a bolt... It took me two hours to extract a LCA bolt with a sawz all, a drill, and a pair of vice grips...

Not to mention I had to drop the LCAs, shocks, and sway bar all as one piece because I couldn't get the bolts off the shock/LCA with an impact gun...


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