PhrequenC

im putting a obd2 b18b1 LS into my 00 ek.. there is three wires that i cant use but need.

1. the dizzy plug doesnt match.
2. i think the crank sensor, drivers side of block by the alternator.
3. o2 sensor before cat.

i think for #3 i can switch my d series o2 sensor over to the LS engine, will that work?

what do i need to do?

i have a b16 head for a LS/vtec but i didnt want to put that on until later when it gets finished and im trying to get my engine in asap becuase i don't have a car to drive. it doesnt have a dizzy.. can i get a b16 dizzy and use it on the b18 non-vtec?

btw, this is my first H swap, and im trying to do everything right.

93egboosted

1. if the dizzy deoesnt plug in you dont have a 0bd2 dizzy.
2. idk i dont know what you mean
3. in a obd2 car you need 2 o2 sensors so that you dont have a cel

first your talking about a b series then a h series???

PhrequenC

no I am talking about my first Honda swap not h as in h22. The LS and my car are both obd2.

PhrequenC

my car is a 2000 EK EX meaning it's obd2b.

boostedcivicsir

the 2000 ek does have a different plug.

if i remember take the dizzy apart and just match wire for wire on the plug from the donor car.

i ran into this on my friends 00 ek dx to gsr swap.

on the CKF match the 2 that go color for color, terminate the orange i think it is.
the iac is the same way. (again it has been a while)

93egboosted

http://www.ff-squad.com/tech/w...8.jpg

follow that diagram for your 3 wire iacv to a 2 wire iacv

PhrequenC

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follow that diagram for your 3 wire iacv to a 2 wire iacv</TD></TR></TABLE>

link doens't work

PhrequenC

what is the CKF?

boostedcivicsir

CKF is crank fluctuation sensor. thats the plug in the front of the engine near the timing cover.

7601chexplicit

1. if your 00 ex is non vtec then you can use that distributor on the LS.
2. The o2 sensor off your ex should work fine.
3. you'll be fine without a crank sensor, multiple engines ive swapped come without one.

good luck

PhrequenC

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 7601chexplicit &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1. if your 00 ex is non vtec then you can use that distributor on the LS.

good luck </TD></TR></TABLE>

its an EX adn its D series not B. EX=vtec

can i use the d series dist on my b16 head? i dotn think so?

7601chexplicit

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its an EX adn its D series not B. EX=vtec

can i use the d series dist on my b16 head? i dotn think so?</TD></TR></TABLE>

b and d series distributors are the same the only difference is vtec or non vtec

93egboosted

sry sbout that

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1488749

thats for the iacv

http://technet.ff-squad.com/ckftrick.htm

thats for the ckf

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1181854


thats for a knock sensor bypass if you need that

PhrequenC

okay so i still haven't resolved my issue. i need to use my d series (d16y8) dizzy on my b16 head? and it will work without problems?

Vindicator9000

No, you can't use a D dizzy on a B engine.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93egboosted &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1. if the dizzy deoesnt plug in you dont have a 0bd2 dizzy.</TD></TR></TABLE>

This isn't true. 99-00 civics have a 10 pin dizzy plug. 96-98 civics have an 8 pin plug just like the B series. 99-00 Civics will not plug right into a B series dizzy even though 96-98 will.

What I did when I had this problem was cut off my D series dizzy plug from the engine harness and soldered on the B series plug from a 01 Integra gsr. The colors match up, and the 10 pin plug really only has 8 wires I believe. Think you can also use a plug from a 96-98 Civic, EM1, or any OBD2 Integra. Or, I think phearable or someone sells a converter harness.


If you're using a usdm engine and ECU, I don't think you want to bypass the CKF sensor - the bypass trick is generally used if you have an ECU that's looking for a CKF that your engine doesn't have... like JDM engine on a USDM ecu. If I remember right, I had to change the plug on mine to match... just used the CKF plug from an Integra harness, and think I may have had to extend it some because it wouldn't reach.


Modified by Vindicator9000 at 9:52 AM 7/21/2008

boostedcivicsir

i did something similar to this above,


i had an engine with a complete harness. used the ek engine harness, and repinned the harness with a plug i harvested from the swap engine.

PhrequenC

so the 10-pin plug really isn't 10 Wires? just pins?

if i rewire a big plug to my harness what will i do with the extra two wires?

longshot

pics of wat your talking about, im completely confused

boostedcivicsir

i dont remember what i did, i know i had both helms' and went pin for pin, and one isnt used, it has been a while and it was a customers car.

but yes there is a 100% difference between a 99-00 ek single cam dizzy plug and b series plug.

PhrequenC

96-98 civic / 96-01 integra dizzy 'big' style dizzy plug:



99-00 civic small style dizzy plug:

boostedcivicsir

i just took this pic cause i was bored:
this is 100% a dx dizzy off of a 00 ek d16y7

boostedcivicsir

beat me to it.
if i remember, just match color for color and its done.

PhrequenC

okay. i've been calling around some parts stores/salvage yards, but i havent found any place willing to sell just the pigtail off harness..there is no junkyards in my area 06606 that have walk-in access.

ideas where i can get the pigtail + plug?

hondaman1212

i would go to the junkyard with a pair of snips and cut it off and put it in my pocket lol

Vindicator9000

I was lucky and bought my swap with an entire integra engine harness. There's no pick-n-pulls near you? If so, you just need to cut off the plug - they'll charge you like a dollar for it.

If not, you can probably re-pin it the other way - swap the dizzy plug from the D-series dizzy onto the B-series dizzy, rather than swapping the plug on the engine side. You'd essentially be making the B-series dizzy match up to a D-series plug rather than just swapping the D plug for a B plug. I personally don't like this option because you'll have to do it again if you ever have to replace the dizzy, but I don't see why it won't work.


Don't remember the o2 sensor plugs not matching up on my 00 EX, but it might be different if you don't have an EX.